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Old 10-02-2008, 06:58 PM   #621
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lets start a bill mahar thread

this is all my fault and i apoligize
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Anyone who believes 9/11 was a conspiracy deserves exactly what happened when they rudely interrupted his show. There's legitimate opinions Maher disagrees with, but that's not one. Anyone who believes 9/11 is a conspiracy is just a moron, plain and simple, and should not have their opinions respected.
People like you make me want to...

I'm not saying anything is written in stone but people like you are absolutley BRAINWASHED. Plain and simple. You simply cannot accept that there MIGHT be something else going on. In your statement you are attacking some victims' families, some firefighters, some scientists, some average folks. You show a pigheadedness that's beyond normal. And you dare call anyone who questions that day as "moron" and that they "should not have their opinions respected" SHAME ON YOU!!!!

P.S. The debate gets under way in less than an hour so I guess we can get back to Sarah Palin soon. What a weirdly brief but angry interlude this was. Never thought I could get so mad writing on a computer screen. Huh.
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People like you make me want to...

I'm not saying anything is written in stone but people like you are absolutley BRAINWASHED. Plain and simple. In your statement you are attacking some victims' families, some firefighters, some scientists, some average folks. You show a pigheadedness that's beyond normal. And you dare call anyone who questions that day as "moron" and that they "should not have their opinions respected" SHAME ON YOU!!!!

P.S. The debate gets under way in less than an hour so I guess we can get back to Sarah Palin soon. What a weirdly brief but angry interlude this was. Never though I could get so mad writing on a computer screen. Huh.
You're from Winnipeg, you are allowed to get as angry as possible!

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people like you are absolutley BRAINWASHED. Plain and simple...

SHAME ON YOU!!!!
It'd be much easier to have constructive discussions with you if you didn't get so hysterical and personal all the time.
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What a weirdly brief but angry interlude this was. Never thought I could get so mad writing on a computer screen. Huh.
Really? Harry, sweetie, you work yourself into a lather all the time. Perhaps this one felt different to you, but it looks a whole hell of a lot like your normal FYM posting style.
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Anyone who believes 9/11 was a conspiracy deserves exactly what happened when they rudely interrupted his show. There's legitimate opinions Maher disagrees with, but that's not one. Anyone who believes 9/11 is a conspiracy is just a moron, plain and simple, and should not have their opinions respected.
Let's try it this way:-

"Anyone who believes that Saddam was not behind 9/11, is just a moron, plain and simple, and should not have their opinions respected."

But, anyway, 9/11 was a conspiracy, full stop. The only matter up for debate is which particular conspiracy theory, of the various competing ones, you happen to believe.

It is known that the US government lied regarding Saddam's links to Al Qaeda. There is no particular reason to believe they did not also lie about 9/11.
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That's enough on this tangent, please.
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That question should have been asked in the debate. I can't believe that was her real answer What the hell

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In an interview aired Thursday, Sarah Palin claimed that Dick Cheney's worst act as vice president was his "duck hunting accident."

As part of Katie Couric's interview series with both VP candidates, Palin and Joe Biden were asked to name the best and worst things that Cheney has done over the last eight years. The responses stood in stark contrast, to say the least.

Biden offered a withering critique of Cheney, charging that he had "done more harm than any other single elected official in my memory in terms of shredding the Constitution," citing the vice president's promotion of "torture as a policy" and the idea of the unitary executive. Even Biden's "praise" for Cheney was brutal: "I admire his willingness to take positions that are completely contrary to popular opinion."

Flash to Palin, sporting a goofy smile: "Worst thing, I guess, that woulda been the duck hunting accident, where, you know, that was, that was an accident. And that was made into a caricature of him, and that was kind of unfortunate." (In fact, Cheney accidentally shot his friend Harry Whittington during a quail hunting trip.)

Cheney's best act, according to Palin: "[H]e's shown his support along with George W. Bush of our troops."
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Cheney's best act, according to Palin: "[H]e's shown his support along with George W. Bush of our troops."
If that's the best thing that comes to mind about a VP, then either the mind it's coming to ain't too bright, or the VP ain't too great.

Or could it be both???

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If that's the best thing that comes to mind about a VP, then either the mind it's coming to ain't too bright, or the VP ain't too great.

Or could it be both???

I suppose you would prefer a VP that says the following?

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When we kicked -- along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, "Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don't know -- if you don't, Hezbollah will control it."

Now what's happened? Hezbollah is a legitimate part of the government in the country immediately to the north of Israel.

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Sean was totally right - it's so exciting to watch "talking points" being born!
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Appearing on a friendlier news outlet, Gov. Sarah Palin said she was "annoyed" with the way Katie Couric handled their interview and complained that the CBS Evening News host failed to give her the opportunity to take a proverbial axe to Barack Obama.

In a portion of her sit-down with Fox News correspondent Carl Cameron, Palin claimed that Couric's questions -- which produced a series of staggeringly embarrassing responses -- put her in a lose-lose position.

"The Sarah Palin in those interviews was a little bit annoyed," she said. "It's like, man, no matter what you say, you are going to get clobbered. If you choose to answer a question, you are going to get clobbered on the answer. If you choose to try to pivot and go to another subject that you believe that Americans want to hear about, you get clobbered for that too."

For the record, Couric asked her, among other things, what type of news sources she turns to for information, which Supreme Court decisions she disagreed with, why Alaska's proximity to Russia gave her foreign policy experience, her opinion of the bailout package for Wall Street, and where she thought Vice President Dick Cheney erred. Which one of those questions was designed to trip her up (as opposed to, say, give viewers a better sense of her character and views) is tough to ascertain.

Later in her interview with Cameron, Palin offered a sense of what she thinks would have been a fairer set of questions. Unsurprisingly, they all would have provided her the opportunity to rail against Obama.

"In those Katie Couric interviews, I did feel that there were lot of things that she was missing in terms of an opportunity to ask what a VP candidate stands for, what the values are represented in our ticket. I wanted to talk about Barack Obama increasing taxes, which would lead to killing jobs. I wanted to talk about his proposal to increase government spending by another trillion dollars. Some of his comments that he's made about the war, that I think may, in my world, disqualify someone from consideration as the next commander in chief. Some of the comments that he has made about Afghanistan -- what we are doing there, supposedly just air raiding villages and killing civilians. That's reckless. I want to talk about things like that. So I guess I have to apologize for being a bit annoyed, but that's also an indication of being outside the Washington elite, outside of the media elite also. I just wanted to talk to Americans without the filter and let them know what we stand for."
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Thursday, Oct. 02, 2008
Poll: Palin Less Popular with Women Voters Than with Men
By Massimo Calabresi

As Sarah Palin braces for her vice-presidential debate tonight with Joe Biden, a new TIME poll shows the Alaska Governor is surprisingly unpopular among likely women voters.

Overall, Palin is viewed favorably by 47% of likely voters and unfavorably by 40%. But her numbers are worse among women than men: 45% of all women surveyed have a negative opinion of Palin, compared to 42% who view her positively. Fifty-two percent of men have a favorable opinion, while 35% are in the unfavorable camp.

Those numbers do not compare well with those of her direct competitor in the general election, Joe Biden. Among women, the Democratic candidate for vice president is viewed positively by 51% and negatively by 27%. Biden has an overall favorable to unfavorable split of 50%-31%, while McCain's is 54%-38% and Obama's rests at an enviable is 60%-33%.

Palin's unpopularity with women may prove a drag on the ticket with the very constituency she initially inspired. Obama now leads McCain by 17 points among likely female voters, 55%-38%. Just after the Republican convention, a TIME poll had the two candidates virtually tied among women, 48% for Obama and 47% for McCain.

The poll of 1,133 likely voters was conducted Sept. 26-29 and has a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points.

Palin has perhaps her best opportunity of the campaign to reverse her slide tonight. A strong showing could convince women that she represents a historic opportunity to break the political glass ceiling. And expectations for her performance couldn't be much lower; after her unsteady performance in interviews with Katie Couric (including an apparent inability to name any Supreme Court cases other than Roe v. Wade that she disagreed with), Palin could go a long way to restoring her credibility with a strong showing in an unstructured format.

Biden and the Democrats, meanwhile, will continue to try and exploit Palin's troubles with voters — especially women. In his own interview with Couric, Biden responded to the same question about disagreements with the Supreme Court by targeting a key issue for women: domestic violence.

Biden, who for years chaired the Senate Judiciary committee, went on at length about his authorship of the Violence Against Women Act and how the Court had ruled against him on a particular provision. Expect to see more of that tonight at the debates.
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Thursday, Oct. 02, 2008
Poll: Palin Less Popular with Women Voters Than with Men
By Massimo Calabresi

As Sarah Palin braces for her vice-presidential debate tonight with Joe Biden, a new TIME poll shows the Alaska Governor is surprisingly unpopular among likely women voters.

Overall, Palin is viewed favorably by 47% of likely voters and unfavorably by 40%. But her numbers are worse among women than men: 45% of all women surveyed have a negative opinion of Palin, compared to 42% who view her positively. Fifty-two percent of men have a favorable opinion, while 35% are in the unfavorable camp.

Those numbers do not compare well with those of her direct competitor in the general election, Joe Biden. Among women, the Democratic candidate for vice president is viewed positively by 51% and negatively by 27%. Biden has an overall favorable to unfavorable split of 50%-31%, while McCain's is 54%-38% and Obama's rests at an enviable is 60%-33%.

Palin's unpopularity with women may prove a drag on the ticket with the very constituency she initially inspired. Obama now leads McCain by 17 points among likely female voters, 55%-38%. Just after the Republican convention, a TIME poll had the two candidates virtually tied among women, 48% for Obama and 47% for McCain.

The poll of 1,133 likely voters was conducted Sept. 26-29 and has a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points.

Palin has perhaps her best opportunity of the campaign to reverse her slide tonight. A strong showing could convince women that she represents a historic opportunity to break the political glass ceiling. And expectations for her performance couldn't be much lower; after her unsteady performance in interviews with Katie Couric (including an apparent inability to name any Supreme Court cases other than Roe v. Wade that she disagreed with), Palin could go a long way to restoring her credibility with a strong showing in an unstructured format.

Biden and the Democrats, meanwhile, will continue to try and exploit Palin's troubles with voters — especially women. In his own interview with Couric, Biden responded to the same question about disagreements with the Supreme Court by targeting a key issue for women: domestic violence.

Biden, who for years chaired the Senate Judiciary committee, went on at length about his authorship of the Violence Against Women Act and how the Court had ruled against him on a particular provision. Expect to see more of that tonight at the debates.
That's mostly to do with the fact that she's HOT. Women are jealous creatures. At least most of them. I guess there are exceptions.
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Here's another Palin prediction: She'll make a surprise appearence on Saturday Night Live!!! I say tonight but let's say before the end of October.
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That's mostly to do with the fact that she's HOT. Women are jealous creatures. At least most of them. I guess there are exceptions.
The more and more you post, the more I realize you don't know what you are talking about, especailly when it comes to women.

You were just saying a few weeks ago that Hillary supporters would vote for her just because she's a woman.
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That's mostly to do with the fact that she's HOT. Women are jealous creatures. At least most of them. I guess there are exceptions.
Thanks for that insight into the feminine psyche.

Every single woman that I've talked to who doesn't like Palin feels that way because she finds it offensive that a woman so unqualified and so dim is supposed to be someone we are excited about. It has nothing to do with her looks whatsoever.
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Okay, so let's see.

Liberals are jealous of Palin because it ain't a Democrat that has a woman on the ticket.

Women are jealous of Palin because she's hot.

That's why we don't like her. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up.
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