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Old 09-05-2008, 06:41 PM   #301
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weep in November.
i'm counting on it.
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Laugh now, weep in November.
Harry, if Obama wins in November, will you find another topic to freak out over?
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Harry, if Obama wins in November, will you find another topic to freak out over?
I'm hoping he does. And yes, there are plenty of topics to "freak out over".
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Laugh now, weep in November.
The way you're carrying on and on and on about your predictions and how we all better watch out, I wouldn't be surprised if you actually want McCain to win just so you can say "I told you so!"
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Nope. But at least I won't be as shocked as you if he actually happens to win.
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with FYM being an 80 % Obama fan base

this is a bit of an echo chamber


Harry at least, writes about his concerns

instead of his leanings or bias'


The Secret

may be a popular book (thanks Oprah)

hoping for something, is mostly harmless

unless it is the mainstay of an election strategy
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Harry at least, writes about his concerns

instead of his leanings and bias'
That's hilarious given his postings on Hillary Clinton earlier in the year. I guess you've forgotten those.
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That's hilarious given his postings on Hillary Clinton earlier in the year. I guess you've forgotten those.
his biggest concern

was that she would connive or cheat her way into stealing the nomination form Obama
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his biggest concern

was that she would connive or cheat her way into stealing the nomination form Obama
Thanks Deep. At least someone was reading them.
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After the 4th or 5th exclamation point/question mark many people tune out.
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Here's just a few of the many articles surfacing on what I've been saying all along.

RealClearPolitics - Articles - Palin Bashing Press Keeps Swinging and Missing

RealClearPolitics - Articles - What I Like About Palin

RealClearPolitics - Articles - Democrats in Trouble
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All 3 of those are conservative op-eds.

Hardly riveting evidence, Harry.
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All 3 of those are conservative op-eds.

Hardly riveting evidence, Harry.
The Conservatives like Palin?! Why?!?!?!?!
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Charming and empty?
She was a pageant queen.

Speaking of charming and empty (but not really), I'm going to say good-night. I'm about to go have a "Sex and The City" DVD marathon with my girlfriends. Please don't let the threads get too long. It's so hard to do all that reading at once.
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The Conservatives like Palin?! Why?!?!?!?!
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Don't be mean to Sarah, or I'll send my Jesus horse to come kick your ass.
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From what I've watched, Palin was picked to stir up the conservative base. Done. With an explanation point.

McCain's job is to win back the independent vote he used to own. Not so certain.


how do you feel about an individual who could become president as early as January 21st who will not be taking any questions from the press?
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how do you feel about an individual who could become president as early as January 21st who will not be taking any questions from the press?
Who says she won't be addressing the press?

And if she didn't, who can blame her after the way they've treated her so far?
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Who says she won't be addressing the press?

No Questions, Please. We'll Tell You What You Need To Know. - Swampland - TIME

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And if she didn't, who can blame her after the way they've treated her so far?

yes, the poor thing. CNN's Campbell Roberts was just *so* mean!

Putin will be much more understanding.

her reticence is best understood by hurt feelings, and not her TOTAL LACK OF PREPAREDNESS TO ADDRESS ANY FOREIGN POLICY ISSUE.
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conservative commentor icon is disgusted by the Palin pick (and manages to toss many cheap shots at Obama):



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Palin's Problem

By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, September 5, 2008; A21



"There are two questions we will never have to ask ourselves, 'Who is this man?' and 'Can we trust this man with the presidency?' "

-- Fred Thompson on John McCain, Sept. 2

This was the most effective line of the entire Republican convention: a ringing affirmation of John McCain's authenticity and a not-so-subtle indictment of Barack Obama's insubstantiality. What's left of this line of argument, however, after John McCain picks Sarah Palin for vice president?

Palin is an admirable and formidable woman. She has energized the Republican base and single-handedly unified the Republican convention behind McCain. She performed spectacularly in her acceptance speech. Nonetheless, the choice of Palin remains deeply problematic.

It's clear that McCain picked her because he had decided that he needed a game-changer. But why? He'd closed the gap in the polls with Obama. True, that had more to do with Obama sagging than McCain gaining. But what's the difference? You win either way.

Obama was sagging because of missteps that reflected the fundamental weakness of his candidacy. Which suggested McCain's strategy: Make this a referendum on Obama, surely the least experienced, least qualified, least prepared presidential nominee in living memory.

Palin fatally undermines this entire line of attack. This is through no fault of her own. It is simply a function of her rookie status. The vice president's only constitutional duty of any significance is to become president at a moment's notice. Palin is not ready. Nor is Obama. But with Palin, the case against Obama evaporates.

So why did McCain do it? He figured it's a Democratic year. The Republican brand is deeply tarnished. The opposition is running on "change" in a change election. So McCain gambled that he could steal the change issue for himself -- a crazy brave, characteristically reckless, inconceivably difficult maneuver -- by picking an authentically independent, tough-minded reformer. With Palin, he doubles down on change.

The problem is the inherent oddity of the incumbent party running on change. Here were Republicans -- the party that controlled the White House for eight years and both houses of Congress for five -- wildly cheering the promise to take on Washington. I don't mean to be impolite, but who's controlled Washington this decade?

Moreover, McCain was giving up his home turf of readiness to challenge Obama on his home turf of change. Can that possibly be pulled off? The calculation was to choose demographics over thematics. Palin's selection negates the theme of readiness. But she does bring important constituencies. She has the unique potential of energizing the base while at the same time appealing to independents.

This is unusual. Normally the wing-nut candidate alienates the center. Palin promises a twofer because of her potential appeal to the swing-state Reagan Democrats that Hillary Clinton carried in the primaries. Not for reasons of gender -- Clinton didn't carry those voters because she was a woman -- but because more culturally conservative working-class whites might find affinity with Palin's small-town, middle/frontier American narrative and values.

The gamble is enormous. In a stroke, McCain gratuitously forfeited his most powerful argument against Obama. And this was even before Palin's inevitable liabilities began to pile up -- inevitable because any previously unvetted neophyte has "issues." The kid. The state trooper investigation. And worst, the paucity of any Palin record or expressed conviction on the major issues of our time.

McCain has one hope. It is suggested by the strength of Palin's performance Wednesday night. In a year of compounding ironies, the McCain candidacy could be saved, and the Palin choice vindicated, by one thing: Palin pulls an Obama.

Obama showed that star power can trump the gravest of biographical liabilities. The sheer elegance, intelligence and power of his public presence have muted the uneasy feeling about his unreadiness. Palin does not reach Obama's mesmeric level. Her appeal is far more earthy, workmanlike and direct. Yet she managed to banish a week's worth of unfriendly media scrutiny and self-inflicted personal liabilities with a single triumphant speech.

Now, Obama had 19 months to make his magic obscure his thinness. Palin has nine weeks. Nevertheless, if she too can neutralize unreadiness with star power, then the demographic advantages she brings McCain -- appeal to the base and to Reagan Democrats -- coupled with her contribution to the reform theme, might just pay off. The question is: Can she do the magic -- unteleprompted extemporaneous magic, from now on -- for the next nine weeks?
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