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Old 09-05-2008, 01:08 AM   #261
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How come the congress has to approve the VP in that situation but they don't have to approve the VP initially?

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the American people approve or reject at the ballot box.
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So, I think it is a 10 % ( at best ) chance that McCain can't make 4 years.

I would hate to handicap 8 years.

And the Dems would have veto over her nomination.

I would expect a true experienced bi-partisan pick.

A hard core extremist would be a non starter.
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But you said the VP has no authority of portfolio, right? So why would their experience and bipartisanship matter.
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I think I said the Vice President has no portfolio or responsibilities other than what the President assigns.

I have also said that Presidents that don't have a problem with experience and qualifications experience do not need to pick a V P that gives them credibility or gravitas. Examples: Bush 1 choosing Dan Quale, McCain picking unknown Palin.

Nominees that are perceived to be light weights Bush II and Obama need a pick that gives them 'gravitas'. Cheney and Biden both accomplished that.

I would put Palin in the Bush II, Obama group
one needing a "gravitas" pick.


And bi-partisanship matters because the 25th amendment requires the House and Senate to confirm. Unlike the party delegations that we just witnessed.
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I think I said the Vice President has no portfolio or responsibilities other than what the President assigns.
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the V P has no authority of portfolio, what difference does it make?
Otherwise I agree with you.
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I am assuming that is a quote (with a typo) from some other thread or perhaps this one?

I meant authority or portfolio



I think I also said FDR changed his VPs like he changed his socks?
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If you click on the little blue arrow in a quoted post, it takes you directly to that post.
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If you click on the little blue arrow in a quoted post, it takes you directly to that post.
that makes things a lot easier
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well that was weird.
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i guess the whole fuck community organizing thing is going to be a staple of the campaign from here on out.

...just saw palin deliver the same "a mayor is a community organizer with responsibility" line on cnn.
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McCain had criticized earmarks from Palin - Los Angeles Times

nice article in the times about palin's penchant for earmarks (including mccain's objections to several of them)...
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i guess the whole fuck community organizing thing is going to be a staple of the campaign from here on out.

...just saw palin deliver the same "a mayor is a community organizer with responsibility" line on cnn.
Makes me wonder...

Do you think community organizers played a strong role in pushing for women's suffrage?

Do you think community organizers played a strong role in pushing for an end to slavery?

Do you think community organizers played a strong role in the civil rights movement?

For a convention whose central theme on the first day was service, these people sure like to insult, denigrate and marginalize those who actually do work for a cause greater than themselves, and actually do make a commitment to serve their communities and country.
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Do you think community organizers played a strong role in pushing for women's suffrage?

Do you think community organizers played a strong role in pushing for an end to slavery?

Do you think community organizers played a strong role in the civil rights movement?
Someone's been drinking the Kool-Aid. How many wars did those whiny hippies serve in? How many budgets did they balance? How much legislation did they coauthor, how much pork barrel did they trim? Look, that's all rah-rah-yes-we-can stuff--Washington is a combat zone, a cesspool, a swamp. What we need is an Ubermensch and an Uberfrau to march in there and kick some f***in' ass.
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New ABC poll, maybe Harry can give us the spin on this puppy...

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The public by a narrow 6-point margin, 25 percent to 19 percent, says Palin’s selection makes them more likely to support McCain, less than the 12-point positive impact of Biden on the Democratic ticket (22 percent more likely to support Barack Obama, 10 percent less so).

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Among moderates, Biden registers as a net 15-point positive for Obama. In the same group, Palin shows no effect on support for McCain.
Biden also has higher positives and lower negatives than Palin.
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yolland, I love it when you get sarcastic.
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McCain had criticized earmarks from Palin - Los Angeles Times

nice article in the times about palin's penchant for earmarks (including mccain's objections to several of them)...
Again, anyone on the right want to defend her statements vs her actions here?
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McCain had criticized earmarks from Palin - Los Angeles Times

nice article in the times about palin's penchant for earmarks (including mccain's objections to several of them)...
Very interesting

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yolland, I love it when you get sarcastic.
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REPEAT THE FOLLOWING:

If you're a minority and you're selected for a job over more qualified candidates you're a "token hire." If you're a conservative and you're selected for a job over more qualified candidates you're a "game changer."

If you live in an Urban area and you get a girl pregnant you're a "baby daddy." If you're the same in Alaska you're a "teen father." (Actually, according to your own MySpace page you're an F'n redneck that don't want any kids, but that's too long a phrase for the evil liberal media to take out of context and flog morning noon and night).

Black teen pregnancies? A "crisis" in black America. White teen pregnancies?
A "blessed event."

If you grow up in Hawaii you're "exotic." Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, you're the quintessential "American story."

Similarly, if you name you kid Barack you're "unpatriotic." Name your kid Track, you're "colorful."

If you're a Democrat and you make a VP pick without fully vetting the individual you're "reckless." A Republican who doesn't fully vet is a "maverick."

If you say that for the "first time in my adult lifetime I'm really proud of my country" it makes you "unfit" to be First Lady. If you are a registered member of a fringe political group that advocates secession that makes you "First Dude."

A DUI from twenty years ago is "old news." A speech given without proper citation from twenty years ago is "relevant information."

And, finally, if you're a man and you decide to run for office despite your wife's recurrence of cancer you're a "questionable spouse." If you're a woman and you decide to run for office despite having five kids including a newborn... Well, we don't know what that is 'cause THAT'S NOT A FAIR QUESTION TO ASK.


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Brilliant...
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