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Old 09-04-2008, 05:16 PM   #201
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Actually it's the propensity to get involved in government that yields that association.
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Old 09-04-2008, 05:17 PM   #202
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Getting ready for a Hillary vs. Palin 2012 election?
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Sarah Palin found some unlikely allies Wednesday as leading academics and even former top aides to Hillary Rodham Clinton endorsed the Republican charge that John McCain’s running mate has been subject to a sexist double standard by the news media and Democrats.

Georgetown University professor Deborah Tannen, who has written best-selling books on gender differences, said she agrees with complaints that Palin skeptics — including prominent voices in the news media — have crossed a line by speculating about whether the Alaska governor is neglecting her family in pursuit of national office.

“What we’re dealing with now, there’s nothing subtle about it,” said Tannen. “We’re dealing with the assumption that child-rearing is the job of women and not men. Is it sexist? Yes.”

“There’s no way those questions would be asked of a male candidate,” said Howard Wolfson a former top strategist for Clinton’s presidential campaign.

The sexism charge was hurled with new intensity Wednesday afternoon by McCain surrogates, all women, at a news conference just hours before made her acceptance speech here - a speech in which she said this about the media and Washington elite: "I'm not going to Washington to seek their good opinion - I'm going to Washington to serve the people of this country."

The tense encounter with reporters showed how McCain’s team has abandoned all pretense that this convention is about anything but Palin, her résumé and her wildly unexpected ascension to the GOP ticket.

A choice that was intended to shake up the race did so with more ferocity than McCain ever intended. The mother of five — with one pregnant teenage daughter and an infant son with Down syndrome — has joined a parade of personalities from Anita Hill to O.J. Simpson to Monica Lewinsky to become a cultural flash point.
Clinton aides: Palin treatment sexist - John F. Harris and Beth Frerking - Politico.com
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Cultural flash point? In the same breath as OJ Simpson and Monica Lewinsky? I'd say that's going a little overboard.
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Getting ready for a Hillary vs. Palin 2012 election?
Only if McCain wins..


and the PUMA's and bitter Appalachian, small town Democrats may want to see Hill have a shot in 2012

an Obama win rewards the sexism displayed against Hillary
they know she will not get a shot in 2016
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an Obama win rewards the sexism
It rewards a well formulated and fought campaign from Obama.
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It rewards a well formulated and fought campaign from Obama.
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I agree with that, for the most part. No one would ever ask if a male candidate with 5 children could be an effective VP, or even president, for that matter. On the other hand, she's (or the McCain team as a whole, rather) made her family the center of her campaign and appeal, unlike any other candidate that I can ever recall, so it seems a little disingenuous to criticize people for taking her family situation into account when considering how effective she can be, and how her time will be divided.

As well, even though Hillary aides have pointed this out and are called "allies," doesn't mean that they're allied with her politically. And to imply that all news outlets and all Democrats think that way is a vast overstatement.
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Random quote I found in regards to Palin's attitude towards community organizers:

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"Mrs. Palin needs to be reminded that Jesus Christ was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor."
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I'll come back to page 14 later, but did anyone on the "right" side even watch the Daily Show clip? Funny how no one pro-McCain/Palin commented

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I'll come back to page 14 later, but did anyone on the "right" side evern watch the Daily Show clip? Funny how no one pro-McCain/Palin commented

Because there is no logical, honest response to that, unless they're willing to admit that they're hypocritical and deceitful. Which of course they'll never do. Even when faced with direct, concrete evidence, they choose to remain silent and ignore it rather than man up and admit to errors.

It's staggering.
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No, but you should be labelled naive, smarter politicians means that they will steal more from you with impunity.
Cynical much? What if it was a smarter libertarian?
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Because there is no logical, honest response to that, unless they're willing to admit that they're hypocritical and deceitful. Which of course they'll never do. Even when faced with direct, concrete evidence, they choose to remain silent and ignore it rather than man up and admit to errors.

It's staggering.
"It's symbolic of his struggle against reality".
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Cynical much? What if it was a smarter libertarian?


Librarians are pretty smart.







Oh wait.














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This is still a blog rumour, but it would be an interesting twist: Ben Smith's Blog: Palin raises $8 million — for Obama - Politico.com
Ya, and over 10 million for McCain. Give it up guys. Your squirming is becoming way too obvious. You're scared to death of this woman - as you ought to be.
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Ya, and over 10 million for McCain. Give it up guys. Your squirming is becoming way too obvious. You're scared to death of this woman - as you ought to be.
Being that it's his convention, his speeches, his shiny brand new vp candidate, shouldn't he be WAY outperforming Obama in donations?
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You're scared to death of this woman - as you ought to be.
But in a completely different way than you mean.
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Ya, and over 10 million for McCain. Give it up guys. Your squirming is becoming way too obvious. You're scared to death of this woman - as you ought to be.
I'm not scared of her. She us COMPLETELY, UTTERLY UNIMPRESSIVE to me! What scares me is that there are actually people who think she should be next-in-line to the presidency, and who are blissfully unaware of how much stretching-of-the-truth and even lying was going on in the speech she gave as well as speeches given about her. That's what scares me.

I am confident the way she was presented at the convention last night is not going to win over a lot of independents.

You say you support Obama. You really haven't sounded like it recently.
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But in a completely different way than you mean.
Come on, you're having fantasies of a 50 ft. tall dominatrix tying you up and whipping you, too. Just admit it.
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