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Old 01-03-2008, 09:15 PM   #141
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I can't wait to hear Obama speak.
You know what's funny? I've rarely heard any of these candidates speak. Because I rarely watch TV almost everything I know about these candidates is from the print media.
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The best part of all of this is that no matter what happens in November, Bush will be gone, gone, gone.
I'll drink to that.
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:17 PM   #143
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What is Edwards talking about, though? If one of the 2 candidates he's thinking of is Obama, he clearly hasn't paid attention to the numbers. It seems like he was speaking as though Obama barely sqeaked out a win. I still love Edwards though, but voting on who I'd like to sit down and have a glass of wine with, would be asinine on my part.
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:19 PM   #144
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You know what's funny? I've rarely heard any of these candidates speak. Because I rarely watch TV almost everything I know about these candidates is from the print media.
I first heard Obama speak at the 2004 Democratic convention. I was only 15 at the time, but he inspired me even then, when no one had heard of him. He's an excellent speaker, my first reaction to hearing him in 04, was a comparison to Martin Luther King Jr.
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I'm also curious to hear how Hillary's morale is at this point.
I don't think she's too worried. Considering she almost skipped Iowa altogether, I don't think she minds a 3rd. She's leading in most other states and nationally. She must have seen a disappointment coming, as the last few days she's been subtly lowering expectations for Iowa.
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I don't think she's too worried. Considering she almost skipped Iowa altogether, I don't think she minds a 3rd. She's leading in most other states and nationally. She must have seen a disappointment coming, as the last few days she's been subtly lowering expectations for Iowa.
Possibly. It seems like she was being touted so much though, that a 3rd place position must be surprising to her. It certainly was surprising to most of the country.
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212,000 Iowans turned out for the caucus. Now that's impressive.
really ??

out of a possible 2 million

10.5% is impressive?
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Obama 38
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:23 PM   #149
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really ??

out of a possible 2 million

10.5% is impressive?
I should clarify. It's not impressive in a country where every citizen over the age of 18 should be taking an active role in their government. However, in a country where apathy seems to have taken over in terms of people who actually get out there and become informed on the issues and the candidates, and in turn vote, it is.
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212K is pathetic overall, but given that the turnout in 2004 was 124K, it's a significant improvement.
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In 1988, the candidates who eventually won the nominations of both parties came in third in Iowa.

history ?????? itself
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Edwards just gave a great speech.
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I don't think she's too worried. Considering she almost skipped Iowa altogether, I don't think she minds a 3rd. She's leading in most other states and nationally.
So was Howard Dean.
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In 1988, the candidates who eventually won the nominations of both parties came in third in Iowa.
Wow, wouldn't that be something. Here's hoping.
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Edwards just gave a great speech.
I agree. He can be quite inspiring himself.
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The best part of all of this is that no matter what happens in November, Bush will be gone, gone, gone.


Also, I just saw Chelsea Clinton standing behind Hillary.

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So was Howard Dean.
Good point.
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212K is pathetic overall, but given that the turnout in 2004 was 124K, it's a significant improvement.
really??


why would the GOP even bother to come out in 2004??
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Also, I just saw Chelsea Clinton standing behind Hillary.

All I see is Madeline Albright. Are you sure she's not the looker that's bewitching you?
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really??


why would the GOP even bother to come out in 2004??
That isn't the point.

We have heard for the last 8 yrs about how important it is to get out the young people vote. And every time, it doesn't happen, even though they recruit Hollywood and half the recording industry. If Obama managed to snag as huge of a proportion as they claim, of voters that nobody else has ever really managed to bring out, then yes, it says something about their GOTV at least.
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