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Old 01-03-2008, 10:08 PM   #201
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Actually he will still be office until January 20, 2009. At which time his successor will become President and will not be pursuing many of the radical changes from the Bush administration so many here are hoping for.
First of all, NO SHIT SHERLOCK, secondly, how do you know there won't be any radical changes?

Like you always say about the war, changes take time.

I think her relief comes from not having a fucking idiot in the white house...

Unless Huck or Mitt wins, we are stepping up!
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If that happens, I'll likely be taking a four year vacation to Europe.
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so what is with the pie chart showing Richardson with 2% ?

I thought he released he folks to go for Obama?
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so what is with the pie chart showing Richardson with 2% ?

I thought he released he folks to go for Obama?
Only Kucinich did that as far as I know.
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I can't even begin to tell you how much Obama inspires me. He is what this country needs, especially for those of us in the young adult generation who are so disillusioned with our country that we can't even be bothered to work for and hope for change anymore.



in this election, we are talkin' about the young folks ... they turned out in record numbers.
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If that happens, I'll likely be taking a four year vacation to Europe.
It's true, if we hire another idiot, I more than likely will move... For the first time in my life I don't have any real ties so I have that option.
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in this election, we are talkin' about the young folks ... they turned out in record numbers.
This will be my first election. A couple years ago, I never thought this election would hold a candidate that could conjure up so much hope and desire to get involved in changing my country for me. I'm really looking forward to this next year.
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I can't even begin to tell you how much Obama inspires me. He is what this country needs, especially for those of us in the young adult generation who are so disillusioned with our country that we can't even be bothered to work for and hope for change anymore.
I certainly don't feel this way. What this country needs is not guy who barely has any political accomplishments to his name. I don't feel disillusioned in the slightest. I'd be much happier with a guy who knows how politics and the world works than with a guy who plans to learn as he goes along. If, God forbid, Obama wins the WH (still a looooong way off), I bet he brings a fraction of the change he is promising, and I hope his suppoters are outraged.
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I certainly don't feel this way. What this country needs is not guy who barely has any political accomplishments to his name. I don't feel disillusioned in the slightest. I'd be much happier with a guy who knows how politics and the world works than with a guy who plans to learn as he goes along. If, God forbid, Obama wins the WH (still a looooong way off), I bet he brings a fraction of the change he is promising, and I hope his suppoters are outraged.
Well, Obama's not a conservative Republican. I would conjecture that his policies and beliefs are not in line with yours. If there was a similar candidate on the Republican side, I certainly wouldn't support him or her for the reasons you and I pointed out. I would not expect you to be inspired by him.
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Only Kucinich did that as far as I know.
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Is Obama a Plan B for Richardson Voters?

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Barack Obama’s drive to win tonight’s Iowa caucuses is getting a boost from two of his putative rivals. After earlier winning the support of Dennis Kucinich, Obama’s campaign has reached an agreement with Bill Richardson for the second-choice votes of Richardson supporters in caucuses where the New Mexico governor can’t clear the threshold for competition, according to a senior Obama campaign adviser. The adviser estimated that the deal puts Mr. Obama in position to claim support from roughly half of the 15 percent of Democratic caucus-goers expected to support second-tier candidates.
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I certainly don't feel this way. What this country needs is not guy who barely has any political accomplishments to his name. I don't feel disillusioned in the slightest. I'd be much happier with a guy who knows how politics and the world works than with a guy who plans to learn as he goes along. If, God forbid, Obama wins the WH (still a looooong way off), I bet he brings a fraction of the change he is promising, and I hope his suppoters are outraged.
I'll challenge you on that, too.
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Thank you. I didn't know about that. Maybe, he'll be dropping out after tonight?
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I agree with everyone saying Obama v. McCain is the best option.

Obama is the still the number one option among the candidates. I don't think he'll make everything Bush ruined better again, but he'll be able to do a lot of it.

And (if Obama wins) those who doubt Obama will probably say he's done nothing come 2012, whether or not he does in fact do anything.
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Biden drops out.
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There goes Biden.
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Biden is out
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Couldn't be happier with the results. Now, if only Obama can beat out Clinton in NH, I may be able to rest easy in the upcoming election.
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Beaten by that rare clean and well-spoken black fella. . .
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I liked Edwards' speech better. I just can't get all that excited about an inspirational speech with lots of platitudes. People love that though.
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