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Old 07-26-2002, 05:45 PM   #21
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Umm..
I did it as an 'ironic' view of life..
It wasnt meant to be offensive...
So far from the responses it looks like ppl get the idea-:idea:
If not, I hope this post clarifies: :idea:

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Old 07-26-2002, 06:17 PM   #22
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I'm with Sicy...I figured the thread was intended humorously, but it perpetuates a stereotype of gay men that is harmful and untrue. The majority of gay men--just like the majority of all human beings, I would venture--is polite and respectful about being flirtatious. Although I know relatively few gay men, the ones that I do know would never flirt with a man if they knew he was straight--and if they didn't know to begin with, they would stop as soon as they found out.
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Correct, I would much rather have lunch w certain gay men then certain straight men...Better manners
They usually dress better than me too
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Old 07-26-2002, 06:26 PM   #24
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Read you, Diamond.

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Old 07-26-2002, 06:32 PM   #25
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it's ok , that h-people notice you , it means you are extremely sexy and cool .

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I HEART DR TEETH!! YOU ARE SO FUNNY

Oh Sicy, did I mention how hilarious this thread is??
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Old 07-26-2002, 09:26 PM   #27
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You know... this part might need to go to Zoo Confessional or sumptin..

Diamond--

I kinda have the same problem.

I mean, I'm totally straight as an arrow, and always longed for a girlfriend... but my introvert/introspectiveness, social anxiety/awkwardness, and capricious idiosyncrasies always at times seem to beg people (straight and gay) to ask "Is he or isn't he?" And it's like they think they know all about gays but they never cease their urge to talk about such fascinations and speculations.

And it's always seems like people think whatever they say is the ultimate judgement on the other person (e.g. me)... They'll say: "He prolly is, but just doesn't know it yet."

I mean, I'm not flamboyant or anything... but I do have a dark, gloomy temperament, always carrying a dark cloud over my head, so to speak... I'm usually uncomfortable in social situations (a la agoraphobia/social anxiety)... and I have a totally deflated self-esteem/self-confidence because of extreme psychological trauma and stress....

All of which goes to show that I'm pretty fucked up!! but people see me and say "He's gay."

It's been 12 years since I've been in therapy... I'm almost considered (by mental health workers) as bipolar manic-depressive type II paranoid schizophrenic w/ schizotypal personality disorder and post-traumatic stress syndrome... (but NOT gay... ) except for the fact that i'm not a lifer in a psychiatric hospital...

And I'm not being a defensive homophobic either... I've just had direct, personal experience that drove me to paranoid tendencies to the nth degree, because fucking kids in high school would shut the fuck up with the faggot slander that spread across the hometown and the whole town reacted with homophobia... and I'm getting shit from them about things that were never true.... :GAO: :GAO:
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Don't you just love the contradictions, Please let's all spoon feed each other teaspoons of hypocrisy...

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I dont really think this thread is all that appropriate, and if I get complaints I'll close it.

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it perpetuates a stereotype of gay men that is harmful and untrue.
Ok.. So it's bad to do this..

Allow me to burn my retinas a few minutes more by searching for this trash...

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Originally posted by Like someone to blame

I do indeed remember Republicans WANTING to starve kids, kill the elderly, and destroy the environment. Well, practice does make perfect...so eventually they might accomplish this. So much for compassionate conservatism...

I think this is exponentially more harmful and untrue than just using a tangible example to call out the big menace that Gays like to Walk down Fifth Avenue Under banners of rainbows with a Meter long Foam Rubber Penis swaying back and forth as if it's God's Grace to Men... Not to mention the Flourescent Thongulators.. TH-poken For.

Consistency.. Consistency..

*Bumps up TheU2s 'Gay Voice' Thread.. Then cuts my toenails*

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Old 07-26-2002, 09:35 PM   #29
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Don't you just love the contradictions, Please let's all spoon feed each other teaspoons of hypocrisy...
What the crap are you talking about now?
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one house away from me , there is a gay couple living , they are very friendly , they speak with funny voices , and they invite other gays for partys , one is italian ala Soprano boss fatso , and his furer mate looks like came from Munchen , blond mustache .. i remember quite some number of them on U2 elevation concerts .
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This is sorta related and sorta not... anyways, heregoes.

People who use sexuality as basis for an insult. I think youll all agree with me when I say that its wrong and nonsensical, but it happens so damn often and it pisses me off... Firstly, Im not gay, secondly, how can you make that judgement if you dont know me, and thirdly, why waste your time randomly searching for people on icq and calling them 'fags' when you live on the other side of the country.

This happened to me when I was on icq one afternoon, someone searched for me, and to their dismay met quite a fight from me, and I in fact had the last laugh on them. Essentially, they messaged me saying something to the degree of 'hi, are you gay?' and i said 'no, im afraid im not, why?' and then the next string of messages proceeded to be something along the lines of me making arguments why you shouldnt use sexual orientation as a means of insult, to which I received the replies 'fag' 'fag boy' 'butt pirate' 'thats fag talk' etc. Now, I became somewhat irked, but lacking better judgement I continued to argue. I said to the guy, 'If the accepted norm of society was homosexuality, and you were included in that majority, and someone started harassing you and calling you straight-boy, would you be insulted?' to which he replied no, I asked if he saw my point and he said 'yeah its up someones ass'. This was the point where I lost my temper and started insulting his intelligence, working a wonderous display of high-strung vocabulary around him, also calling him an idiot - a term even he could understand. He gave up on the sexuality based insults and threatened to kick my ass. I reminded him that he was 2500 miles away and if he wants to kick my ass he can get on a plane and bring it, finished by calling him a complete dumbass whos only alive because its illegal to shoot him and people like him, at which point I put him on my ignore list.

Now, its this kind of idiocy that causes me to have a deeply seeded hatred for humanity.

Next story, also icq, someone from europe messaged me asking if I was gay, this was prior to my first example mind you, by almost a year I believe, I pleasantly declined, he asked if I would like to try, I declined again, and that was the end of that discussion.

Now, from other experiance, I will agree with everything that everyone has said thus far about homosexual men being much more pleasant than the heterosexual male population, now Im sure that there are exceptions to the rule as there always are, however I have yet to find any gay men who have been harsh, rash, abrasive, or aggressive to the same degree as Ive faced from the other portion of the gender. I see nothing wrong with homosexuality, and having mod powers on a gaming-related forum I delete any message/thread which includes the use of the term fag, because as a straight person it insults me that there can be such sweeping ignorance in our "civil" world.

Thats about all I have to say on this issue. Although I must say, this thread has been handled very well, and Im glad that we can all hold a decent conversation in here without people getting jumpy and taking offense keep up the good work folks
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Old 07-26-2002, 10:13 PM   #32
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Mr Soulful-
Glad you got things figured out in your life:idea:
Thanks for feeling comfortable enough to share your past dilema:idea:
Im ok basically w any ones sexual orientation..just have a problem w the folk that are too forward or assumtive..straight or gay..

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have fun if they are

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Old 07-26-2002, 10:19 PM   #33
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I I dont understand- why should this make a difference????- its not like straight ppl boast about being straight- i just dont think its right
--How many pictures of spouses/significant others do you see straight people hang up at work? Now how many do you see of gay partners?

--I had to listen for about two hours or so why my female co-worker wanted to dump her "hot" boyfriend, because he wasn't as "hot" as another guy who "swept her off her feet" at the bar last night. I really didn't give a fuck, but you can get fired for being gay in most American states.

--How many times do I see some girl hanging all over their boyfriend like their attached to the hip? And if two gay guys are together, they are somehow "flaunting" themselves "shamelessly."

I don't know why straight people have to constantly and implicitly boast that they are straight. I just don't think it's right.

You just don't notice the "boasting," because it is so societally ingrained.

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This is sorta related and sorta not... anyways, heregoes.

People who use sexuality as basis for an insult. I think youll all agree with me when I say that its wrong and nonsensical, but it happens so damn often and it pisses me off... Firstly, Im not gay, secondly, how can you make that judgement if you dont know me
I always found it to be illogical that bystanders would know nothing about one person (such as, what's their name, what they do for work, where do they live, where they were born, etc. etc.) ... and people seem to think that targeting in on one's sexuality is easier than finding out about all the more personal, intimate information... like when's your birthday?
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Old 07-26-2002, 10:24 PM   #35
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I don't know why straight people have to constantly and implicitly boast that they are straight. I just don't think it's right.

You just don't notice the "boasting," because it is so societally ingrained.

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yeah... cultural constructs that people fail to see.... goddamn boasters

i could write a long essay discussing the development of this cultural pattern back to 19th cent. English public schools, but i won't waste my breath.... think productivity, capitalism, protestantism, and Queen Victoria... its just baggage
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Old 07-26-2002, 10:44 PM   #36
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I kinda could understand where Melon is coming from..seriously

I also HATE straight fellows who constantly speak of their sexual conquests.
Sometimes I find myself hating myself

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i dunno about parties , but i do like Queen and David Bowie , honestly i can understand some of them , imagine they want love and in 78% in attempt to have a conversation they're facing brutality , disrespect etc , btw i'm straight :lemon: :lemon:
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I have had an encounter with a gay man at a restaraunt and its kind of funny. I went to dinner one nite with my gram and my mom and the waiter was like "So girlfriends, what can i get you all?"
and he would constantly pat my mom shoulder and give her like back rubs, when he asked how dinner was. Thats not even the funnest part! So there im eating me dinner when all of sudden i get a pat on my head and he goes and i quote "duck duck, Goose!" I completely lost it and started busting a gut bc of the way that he said it! I know that he is gay bc ive seen him around!
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I don't care if someone - regardless of sex - tells you they think you are good looking, cute, whatever, its a great little boost for the night, and if you've ever been to a gay club, you've been to a party.
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for me i see no offence , cause i prefer females , so what , gays are normal people , cause it's nature and you can't walk against it , like it's ugly to act against different races , religions .. to differ each other not by our minds , feelings but by color of skin , sex , place where you were born , or by religion u were raised by .. me i love girlz , Love is Blindness...............
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