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Old 09-15-2002, 04:31 PM   #21
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never mind this post..the offender has been educated
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Old 09-15-2002, 04:40 PM   #22
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Well, back to the original intent of the thread "Regan Bashing"

Hehe! Thanks for the civics lesson Arun.

I do not doubt your knowledge of the region.

Question your beliefs about the Reagan Administration....

But hey, the world is a big place and there is room for all.





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Diamond....pakistan is a terrorist state period....they made one arrest big whup. Ask danny pearl about the pakistanis
One big arrest?

The Ramzi Binalshibh is HUGE!!!!!!

Fitting to see him grabbed on the anniversary of Sept. 11.

This terrorist may hold the key to quite a bit.
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Old 09-16-2002, 03:29 AM   #24
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If you think that Pakistan is with the US you are an idiot. If you think Saudi Arabia is with the US you are an idiot.

Pakistan & Saudi Arabia are not with the US, they just don't want to be against the US.

"the good general M" yeah right. If India and Pakistan ever went to a full scale war, who do you think the US would back? (clue: it's not Pakistan) You don't think Pakistanis know this? Do you think they trust and like the US or they are just doing what they can to stay out of trouble? Pakistan could not give a shit about the US, but they definetely don't want the US pissed off with them, not with India sitting right there gagging to attack.
It's called politics.
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If you think that Pakistan is with the US you are an idiot. If you think Saudi Arabia is with the US you are an idiot.
Make it personal!!!! LOL
Fact: Saudi Arabia has reversed their decision on using the bases in their country.
Fact: Pakistan is aiding us in the apprehension of terrorists.

FACT: We can't trust them!!!!!

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Pakistan & Saudi Arabia are not with the US, they just don't want to be against the US. [/B]
I can agree with this.

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"the good general M" yeah right. If India and Pakistan ever went to a full scale war, who do you think the US would back? (clue: it's not Pakistan) You don't think Pakistanis know this? Do you think they trust and like the US or they are just doing what they can to stay out of trouble? Pakistan could not give a shit about the US, but they definetely don't want the US pissed off with them, not with India sitting right there gagging to attack.
It's called politics. [/B]
And they are doing a good job at it too.
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Old 09-16-2002, 01:37 PM   #26
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I do find it humurous tho, that the author of this thread -was -2 (neg. 2) yrs old when Regean took office.
He has qwite a task of trying to convince 2/3rds of the American who found Reagan favorable that Reagan was a bastard when he left office.
Knock yourself out halfstar
Plez update us w on how your little AntiReagan Campaign is going from time to time, ok?

thanks-

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iam glad how Pakistan is co-operating in The War On Terror..



Has the United States forgotten that General Musharraf took power in a military coup? Or is that permissable so long as he's friendly towards the US?
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Just because a person wasn't an adult during the Reagan administration doesn't mean they can't accurately comment on said administration. That's like saying we can't discuss the Revolutionary War or the founding of the U.S. because none of us were there.

When I was a political science major, we naturally dealt with current issues and problems of the American government. A large majority of the problems stemmed from the Reagan administration as well as the following Bush camp. This was especially true of the economy. We also talked about how Reagan was the Teflon President--no matter what stupid things he did, the public didn't seem to care. Then again, many of his policies took awhile to rear their ugly heads. The theme of Reagan incompetence was a big one in our classes. Mind you, none of my profs openly supported or opposed Reagan, and I live in a state currently dominated by republicans.

The man was an actor, for crying out loud, and many people say that he wasn't mentally all there for some of his presidency. Every president has a few good deeds to hang their hats on, but with Reagan, the U.S. ended up worse for the wear in the long run. I will continue to be amazed at those who defend him and those who consider his presidency a high point in American history.
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Get me binladens body..that's huge. Pakistan is the same country that actually put the taliban into power becuase it wanted a strongly islamic neighbor. You can take a hornet out of teh nest and tell me that you've done a great job.



Heartland girl...thanks. People seem to think that just because you are young you can't have valid opinion on an issue.



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One big arrest?

The Ramzi Binalshibh is HUGE!!!!!!

Fitting to see him grabbed on the anniversary of Sept. 11.

This terrorist may hold the key to quite a bit.
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Ms Heartland-
Thank you for your opinion
I promise you I wont go start any threads on why Im befuddled on how some presidents who I feel sucked duped the American people.
And Im not even a "neutral" college professor

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Ms Heartland-
Thank you for your opinion
I promise you I wont go start any threads on why Im befuddled on how some presidents who I feel sucked duped the American people.
And Im not even a "neutral" college professor

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your more like gilligan
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Ms Heartland-
Thank you for your opinion
I promise you I wont go start any threads on why Im befuddled on how some presidents who I feel sucked duped the American people.
And Im not even a "neutral" college professor

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You're welcome!

All presidents dupe the American public on some level. I, for one, would rather be duped in regard to the president's sex life than be duped in regard to the selling of arms or how trickle down economics works (or doesn't work, as the case may be).

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Ahem Arun-

To arun-
Whatever you say "Mrs Howell"



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You're welcome!

All presidents dupe the American public on some level. I, for one, would rather be duped in regard to the president's sex life than be duped in regard to the selling of arms or how trickle down economics works (or doesn't work, as the case may be).

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Old 09-17-2002, 11:42 AM   #35
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If there are ANY doubts that reagan created saddam


read this article


http://www.msnbc.com/news/807688.asp#BODY



Also...for the sake of the education of all interferencers


There are no elected officials in pakistan it is a military dictatorship. Mushareff came to power as the result of a military coup within the last 5 years.

tyler...you are right on with yoru take on pakistan, The UN resolutions are clearly against them and they know that the US will side with india. It' unfortunate that The nixom administration set relations with india so far back that it took bill clinton to set it right again.
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Thanks for the link Arun!

I will be reading it tonight.


By the way has anyone claimed the title of "The Professor"?

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Arun,

That article did not say "Reagan created Saddam". Its "how we helped create Saddam" supposedly. The article is full of what is more speculation rather than fact. Diplomatic meetings, allowing the sell of duel use technology, that was allowed for other countries as well back then, and unsubstantiated "economic aid" is not evidence that we "created" Saddam. Information on the supposed sell of US tanks to Egypt and then Egypts sell of the tanks to Iraq is simply false. I have the complete Iraqi military weapons tables listing all conventional military equipment that Iraq has as of June 1989. What should come as a surprise to most of you is the vast amount of Soviet Equipment(including key area's like tanks and fighter aircraft) that Iraq has, and the lack of almost any US equipment, aside from a few US weapon systems that were captured from Iran during the Iran/Iraq War. These weapon systems were sold to Iran when the Shah was still in power.

My information comes from the internationaly respected London based thing tank, IISS, The International Institute Of Strategic Studies. It is either terrible sloppy journalism by newsweek or the simple desire to sell more magazine's through controversy, based on little fact, and taken out of the context of where ALL and MOST of Iraq's military machine came from. I'll post what is known about Iraq's military machine before the start of the Gulf War, which will include the list of all major conventional weapons systems and where they came from. While WMD weapons are threatening as terror weapons against civilians and unprotected military, they are not the weapons that helped Iraq defeat Iran, nor are they the main weapons in surpressing Kurds or Shia's or other opposition in Iraq. Nor are they the weapons that he used to attack Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Israel with. I'll post the information on Iraq's military and where the weapons came from, when I get the chance.
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Arun,

That article did not say "Reagan created Saddam". Its "how we helped create Saddam" supposedly. The article is full of what is more speculation rather than fact. Diplomatic meetings, allowing the sell of duel use technology, that was allowed for other countries as well back then, and unsubstantiated "economic aid" is not evidence that we "created" Saddam. Information on the supposed sell of US tanks to Egypt and then Egypts sell of the tanks to Iraq is simply false. I have the complete Iraqi military weapons tables listing all conventional military equipment that Iraq has as of June 1989. What should come as a surprise to most of you is the vast amount of Soviet Equipment(including key area's like tanks and fighter aircraft) that Iraq has, and the lack of almost any US equipment, aside from a few US weapon systems that were captured from Iran during the Iran/Iraq War. These weapon systems were sold to Iran when the Shah was still in power.

My information comes from the internationaly respected London based thing tank, IISS, The International Institute Of Strategic Studies. It is either terrible sloppy journalism by newsweek or the simple desire to sell more magazine's through controversy, based on little fact, and taken out of the context of where ALL and MOST of Iraq's military machine came from. I'll post what is known about Iraq's military machine before the start of the Gulf War, which will include the list of all major conventional weapons systems and where they came from. While WMD weapons are threatening as terror weapons against civilians and unprotected military, they are not the weapons that helped Iraq defeat Iran, nor are they the main weapons in surpressing Kurds or Shia's or other opposition in Iraq. Nor are they the weapons that he used to attack Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Israel with. I'll post the information on Iraq's military and where the weapons came from, when I get the chance.
I'd like to see that...I think you should email this to newsweek..if what your saying is in fact true...this article is highly misleading
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Saddam's parents created Saddam.

Al gore created the internet.

Ronald Reagan created a monkey by the name of "Bonzo."

God created everything else.

There is nothing further to debate.
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Don't even get me started on Bonzo the chimp!
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