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Old 04-04-2002, 12:05 PM   #41
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Can I buy you another cup of coffee?


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Nice retort, Brother Edge.-w our resident lib-melon


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Wanderer-
That was great!
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Thank You-
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Perfect analogy Popsadie.


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Nice retort, Brother Edge.-w our resident lib-melon


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Bama is on the money here.


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Diemen has got it right here.


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Old 04-04-2002, 05:28 PM   #45
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Well, I can't find where, but there was a magazine article (RS?) a while back where Bono was talking to Thom Yorke about his dealings with 'drop the debt'. Yorke scoffed at his meeting with Jessee Helms and another conservative (who was a Radiohead fan) by saying "great, bad people like our music.." (not a direct quote since I couldn't find the article). Bono's response was, ..."just because they are conservative dosen't mean they are bad..." (once again, not a direct quote).
I have a good idea what he is doing. I do this all the time in the forum here, if you've ever really paid close attention. He is never going to openly insult someone, regardless of ideology. If I was working for "Drop the Debt," instead of Bono, and I had to go to an event where Ronald Reagan, my ideological archnemesis ( ), was being honored and I had to make a speech, do you think for a minute I'd go on a tirade on how evil I thought he really was? Not if I ever wanted my debt relief package to go through! So what do you do? You hide your potential contempt in packages of optimism. If I had to make a speech at a Republican conference honoring Ronald Reagan, I'd likely praise him for something ridiculously neutral as "his integrity in the face of adversity," "his struggle for democracy against the Soviet Union," etc. In the case of Bono? "Just because they are conservative, doesn't mean they are bad."

What Thom Yorke stated was completely lacking in diplomacy; if he ever picks up a political cause in Washington, D.C. now, he'll likely be dismissed as a extreme leftist fanatic. Bono is a very smart, very cunning individual, and, of course, so are many Congressional Republicans. They know how to play the game, and, most importantly, they know how to hide any contempt they may have out of respect. Does that necessarily mean that Bono likes Sen. Jesse Helms? Maybe, maybe not. Bono may see the "honorable" senator as like appeasing that cranky, rich uncle that you dislike just so he'll give you what you want. That certainly doesn't mean that, at home and behind closed doors, you don't wish that your irritating rich uncle would drop over and die.

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Anyway, I apologize for straying off track here. I hope you aren't in some liberal denial by believing that Bono really hates the conservatives yet is putting on some front to accomplish his goals. IF this were the case, then how would we know when he was pretending or not? How do we know that he isn't pretending he likes us when he really hates us but loves our $$$ and the great life we have given him?
Very simply, Bono has done enough things to piss off conservatives in the recent years. He's definitely liberal religiously, and he picks up causes that are politically liberal. But he has to get approval from those who are conservative if he ever wants to get things done. He could have done a stunt worthy of "Rage Against the Machine," but, as I'm sure he has learned from his own mistakes when he was younger, those with the power to change your issue will put a deaf ear to you. The lesson through time is that change, ultimately, does come from within. "From within," as has always been, involves lots of games. I have a good feeling that, if everything were said and done and Bono ran for President, he'd have such a socially liberal platform that you'd never know that he'd be the type to get his picture taken Sen. Jesse Helms. It's no different than Sen. Edward Kennedy, the bulwark of Congressional liberalism, cowriting an educational bill with President Bush. The contempt is still there, but progress often makes strange bedfellows.

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[. I have a good feeling that, if everything were said and done and Bono ran for President, he'd have such a socially liberal platform that you'd never know that he'd be the type to get his picture taken Sen. Jesse Helms.
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Melon,
I understand the "liberal" events Bono has been involved in the past, but still think you make to many assumptions on his political Ideology based very little info. There is a range of political issue's in which BONO's position is not known. I think its also wrong to cast members of either party as raging conservitives or raging liberals. There are a few, but most are more in the middle, and could probably swap party membership without changing to many of their views on things.
When could argue that BONO is a republican because of his business position. U2 has a huge organization behind them. It is a massive business which last year generated hundreds of millions of dollars, just like any Multi-National corporation and Bono, one could argue, is the CEO or President. U2 is big business. When it comes to the business side of U2, I think you will find that BONO has a lot more in common with Republicans and members of large corporations on business matters. I'm sure BONO is 100% behind free trade unlike most Democrats.
Contrary to his supposed pacifist beliefs Bono was a big supporter of US military action in Bosnia and Kosovo and in a new HOT PRESS article supports Bush's war on Terror, understanding that there are nuts and evil out there that has to be defeated.
My main point is that that BONO is not apart of either party and it is misleading to label him. To much is not known. Yes there is indications of this and indications of that, but not enough to label him as hardcore this or hardcore that.
I also think that many people here make a lot of assumptions about the views of the members of either party. If this person is a Republican, he must believe this, that and the other. Same with the Democrats, I don't think that is so.
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True, he isn't a pacifist; he says on the FREE TIBET enhanced CD that he admires pacifists but isn't one.

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Bono cannot run for President of the U.S., he is an Irish citizen.
Must I really state the obvious? If you must reduce my posts to the most banal and literal level, he can run for president of Ireland. I never said he was running for President of the U.S., now did I?

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I may check my Official Republican Party Handbook and see if Bono can run for G.O.P. Chairman.
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I may check my Official Republican Party Handbook and see if Bono can run for G.O.P. Chairman.
STOP reducing Melon's posts now!
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Well, what did the G.O.P. handbook say?
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It said you could never even join because of your 30% lacking.
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Well, what did the G.O.P. handbook say?
Dearest z edge,

It clearly states that one must reduce all posts to its most literal level to frustrate those commie liberals.

Oh and everyone knows that Bono is a conservative. And why? Because I'm a conservative and everyone I admire must be in my same party. He'll need to lose that communist looking jacket he always wears. A red tie and a navy blue suit would suit him well.

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It said you could never even join because of your 30% lacking.
perhaps I'll go join a couple of militia's to earn some extra credit and bump up that score

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I'm not sure what the laws are, but I think the Edge can become a US citizen now that he is marrying Morleigh Steinburg in June. She is from California.
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EDGE for President!!!!

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