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STING2 said:This is exactly what Al Zarqawi and the terrorist in Iraq want to see.
STING2 said:This is exactly what Al Zarqawi and the terrorist in Iraq want to see.
Dreadsox said:
People excercizing their rights? They should be allowed to protest...
Although....the signs I have been seeing lead me to believe there is a lot of crack being smoked.
Dreadsox said:So do you recommend that people who have a legitimate grievance against the governement forgo their constitutional rights?
BonoVoxSupastar said:
Yeah I'm sure they really care.
STING2 said:
They care about getting the US military out of Iraq. They definitely care about any sign of increased negative public opinion in the United States because they know while they have failed to get the US military out of Iraq, influencing US public opinion at home to withdraw could accomplish their goal.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
I just don't see the insurgents sitting around the table and saying oh that's great did you see on TV that people are protesting the war. That's great that means Bush will pull out.
BonoVoxSupastar said:Sting do you think Bush is going to change his mind? Do you honestly think insurgents really believe they have a better chance of the US pulling out now that they've seen this?
STING2 said:
Bush is not going to be President forever and Lyndon Johnson was forced into doing things he would never have done politically, after the Tet Offensive in the Vietnam War turned US public opinion against the war. The American Public will ultimately decide in the long run, if the United States will pull out of Iraq before it accomplishes its mission or not.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
The mission was to bring democracy to Iraq, or have we forgot? This will happen(hopefully), if it lasts no one knows.
There is no way we will eliminate terrorism with this war. None what so ever. By no means does that mean they win.
It's scare tactics and rhetoric that say "this is exactly what they want to hear".
And yes you are right the American public WILL decide, and they should.
Dreadsox said:There is a coalition though. If the people of the United States should decide that it is time to leave, then the coalition should fill in until the objective is achieved.
Dreadsox said:I happen to be all about letting them do what they have to do. Any rational person viewing the signs I saw today is more likely to be pushed back to center and be more supportive of the troops.
I think the terrorists will have succeeded when the quality of the protester has improved.....
pax said:
Can't say I agree with this, Dread. I'm neither politician nor historian nor war theorist, but I was opposed to the war from the outset and I sincerely doubt that the coalition would "fill in" if we decided to skip town; moreover, I'm not sure they have any real obligation to do so.
That would in fact be about the worst solution I could think of: walk away from the mess that our government decided to start and leave a coalition of troops of a few other nations to try to stanch the bleeding. It wouldn't solve the problem of young men and women dying. They'd be British or Polish or Latvian ones instead, that's all. A solution that involves passing the buck is no solution at all.
Irvine511 said:i was there. it was very mainstream. the most offensive signs were from the anti-demonstration demonstraters.
Dreadsox said:There is a coalition though. If the people of the United States should decide that it is time to leave, then the coalition should fill in until the objective is achieved.
STING2 said:This is exactly what Al Zarqawi and the terrorist in Iraq want to see.
Zoomerang96 said:
are you bullshiting me?
seriously, you're real name is brett isn't it.
it absolutely infuriates me to read such narrowminded, black and white comments like this.
this is exactly why my stomach can't stand posting here. some of you simply haven't the slightest clue.
STING2 said:
Is this generally what you say to most people you disagree with?
Zoomerang96 said:well considering i spend all my time speaking with people who rationalize their standpoints with various information outlets, as opposed to someone who clearly is none other than ari fleischer himself, no, this is not how i speak to others.
it is incomprehensible to read what you have to say over and over again, year after year...i like to think that i fail to make sense when i try my hardest, but your incessant posting of the same viewpoint over and over again without any moderation or reconsideration of the very facts that contradict nearly everything that you say is so baffling it makes me nearly vomit.
financeguy said:
Why do you hate America.
You must be a damn Communist or something.
Regards,
Brett
Zoomerang96 said:
well considering i spend all my time speaking with people who rationalize their standpoints with various information outlets, as opposed to someone who clearly is none other than ari fleischer himself, no, this is not how i speak to others.
it is incomprehensible to read what you have to say over and over again, year after year...i like to think that i fail to make sense when i try my hardest, but your incessant posting of the same viewpoint over and over again without any moderation or reconsideration of the very facts that contradict nearly everything that you say is so baffling it makes me nearly vomit.