how would you feel if next terrorist attack is on christmas eve?

[Vorsprung]

Originally posted by melon:
Overall, I think that the Pentagon is reporting actual events, but is selectively holding back elements that may look unfavorable. I really doubt this war is happening as perfectly as we are being told. No wars are this perfect.

Of course they're holding back elements, maybe they're even lying. But they can't reveal everything (and i don't mean tactical info here). They said they will win this war, so they will do very very much to win it, that's their main objective. And some things just aren't that pretty (war is never pretty) to tell the public. So they won't risk losing public support if they don't have to, and they don't. They have almost a total monopoly of the information coming from Afghanistan since the undereducated representatives of the Taliban in Pakistan -compared to them even GW Bush seems intelligent- are not really taken seriously (really not taken seriously?) by quality media.

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[This message has been edited by Vorsprung (edited 11-10-2001).]

[Achtung Bubba]

Originally posted by Bathtime Fun Whortense:
i think the word, 'demagogue,' had damn well get retired in this forum!!!!111111 whomever uses it is a hypocrite, because then you yourself start trying to sway people using impassioned appeals to the emotions and prejudices of the populace by trying to dismiss your opponent as a fanatic, rather than criticizing him on the basis of facts. it seems, quite honestly, a lot of people are throwing around big words that probably are ill-used at best.

Well said!

People are certainly throwing big arounds around when they clearly don't know what the words mean.

Words like "you", "never", and "apologize".

[BabyGrace]

thank you Melon and zooropamanda.

need I say more?

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[melon]

Originally posted by Achtung Bubba:
Well said!

People are certainly throwing big arounds around when they clearly don't know what the words mean.

Words like "you", "never", and "apologize".

I need not be nice anymore.

I am doing as I am asked by Elvis, and that is avoiding you. You, apparently, seem to continue provocation. This incident is being duly noted by me, and repeated provocation will force me to report you yet again. Consider this yet another warning.

I expect this kind of trolling from newbies, not from administrators.

Melon

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"He had lived through an age when men and women with energy and ruthlessness but without much ability or persistence excelled. And even though most of them had gone under, their ignorance had confused Roy, making him wonder whether the things he had striven to learn, and thought of as 'culture,' were irrelevant. Everything was supposed to be the same: commercials, Beethoven's late quartets, pop records, shopfronts, Freud, multi-coloured hair. Greatness, comparison, value, depth: gone, gone, gone. Anything could give some pleasure; he saw that. But not everything provided the sustenance of a deeper understanding." - Hanif Kureishi, Love in a Blue Time

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[Achtung Bubba]

Originally posted by melon:
I need not be nice anymore.

I am doing as I am asked by Elvis, and that is avoiding you. You, apparently, seem to continue provocation. This incident is being duly noted by me, and repeated provocation will force me to report you yet again. Consider this yet another warning.

I expect this kind of trolling from newbies, not from administrators.

Melon

You were being nice? And *I* am provoking you?

As I made clear in my post, I responded to THIS:

i think the word, 'demagogue,' had damn well get retired in this forum!!!!111111 whomever uses it is a hypocrite, because then you yourself start trying to sway people using impassioned appeals to the emotions and prejudices of the populace by trying to dismiss your opponent as a fanatic, rather than criticizing him on the basis of facts. it seems, quite honestly, a lot of people are throwing around big words that probably are ill-used at best.

This is obviously a snide remark about me, continuing the argument from the original thread.

You are not doing as Elvis asked. You are not avoiding me. You are provoking me.

As far as I was concerned, our dispute ended in the other thread; I was planning on avoiding you from that point on.

But I will not allow you to make such snide remarks and let them go unnoticed. If you continue to bring this up, I will continue to respond. Period.

This will go on for as long as you want. Shut up about it, and I will do the same.

[Whortense]

Originally posted by Achtung Bubba:
Shut up about it, and I will do the same.

done.

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walla walla, washington

[Mr. MacPhisto]

Originally posted by Whortense:
done.

Good boys.

**gives bubba and melon new bones to chew on.



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