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Hilary Clinton's Concession/Endorsement Speech
I figured this was momentous enough to warrant its own thread.
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Thanks! That was the best speech Hillary gave this campaign season and not because she was finally ending her campaign. It was more passionate and reasonable than I've seen her in a long time. She's sincere and focused, and I believe she'll do everything in her power to support the Obama campaign and help him win the presidency.
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![]() I thought she wanted Obama to lose. so she could go again in 2012? |
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I thought it was a damn good speech, and I think she's done a great job for Obama here.
Did anyone notice the clearly audible chorus of boos from her throng of supporters the first time she mentioned Obama in the speech? Well, by the end of the speech, when she would mention Obama - the cheers were the only audible thing. The boos disappeared. I think that a speech like this (a lot more work needs to be done than just a speech, obviously) really helps out our kid Obama in the long run. Good shit, Hillary! |
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I think it's common to suspend, that's what Edwards did as well (which is how his delegates pretty much all ended up going to Obama in the end).
I missed the first 10 minutes or so, but of what I saw, I thought it was very good. I've seen most of her speeches this time around (if you look at my old posts you'll see that I actually did support her and I believed she would win initially). Most of her speeches were terrible compared to this one and tended to be tinged with that bit of arrogance that I think people could do without. It's unfortunate for her that she lost her way somewhere along the road. On a different note, I mulled over starting a thread on this, but I've had to work 14 hour days this week so I just haven't had the time or the energy. Anyway, I do feel that there is a rather large disconnect between women of Hillary's generation and women of mine, and I think that contributed somewhat to her loss as well. It's hard to tell what tangible result it had, because both my parents (ages 54 and 59) were initially Hillary supporters and by May both said they would have a hard time even voting for her anymore. But I do feel that it took my Mom a lot longer to let go of her personal fondness than it did my female friends, who to the last one couldn't stand the sight of Hillary months ago. I've always wondered whether their generation was disappointed in ours. |
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I've been thinking about that a lot, too...I think probably yes, but also that that feeling is to a considerable extent mutual. In the sense that it's often perhaps a bit too easy for young women (I mean younger than you, for the most part--basically, women with little experience of the fulltime working world) to look on older women with a kind of contempt-tinged pity; a sense that Yes, it's really sad and galling the avenues that were closed off to them, but then that's what you get for consenting to be a doormat...not grasping that in reality many women of that generation started out fully intending NOT to become anyone's 'doormat,' then discovered along the way that it's not as simple as what your own intents and attitudes are--that a 'strong, independent' outlook takes you only so far in the face of certain social realities. Which in turn can give rise to an equally presumptuous outlook towards younger women of 'Oh, they're sooooo naive; they don't get it at all.' And probably there's an uncomfortable amount of truth to both...but it's so hard to parse out where the meeting point might be, because you never really know just how much society has changed until the next generation moves on out there and swims around in it awhile, by which point yet another is on its way and the cycle repeats again.
Some days I think, Well, the silver lining in all that mess is that surely we'll soon be seeing a marked increase of women in political leadership positions; that regardless of history's verdict on Hillary personally and the kind of campaign she ran, this will at least have opened up both men's and women's minds considerably to being able to envision a President as something other than a man, the expected Great-National-Patriarch-In-The-White-House image. Other days I think, Ha!! yeah, right...let's face it, the only reason she ever stood a chance anyhow was her husband's reflected aura, and that scenario's not gonna come around again anytime soon (nor should it, quite probably); and as for the idea of some other woman somehow acquiring the needed social validation to make it that far in the absence of something like that--well, it's a nice idea, but not in my lifetime. And I hear you on the 14 hour days. ![]() |
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^This reminds me of the other story I heard recently on The Daily Show, where in a speech she told the story of the young boy who sold his bike and a video game to make a donation to hr campaign. Jon Stewart just added something along the line of "... and I took it." (Can't remember the exact thing he said).
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The ad at the top of this thread was for McCain. It had pictures of Iran's president and Obama.
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Yeah, it was a great speech.
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she wants it both ways. either the presidency in 2016 via the VP (which the Clintonistas are openly lobbying for), or, should Obama lose, she's fired up and ready to go for 2012. i think she realizes, now, that if Obama can defeat the biggest brand name in Democratic politics since Kennedy, not to mention their most effective spokesman, money-raiser, and attack dog, and come out like the good guy, he's going to be unstoppable in the fall. but lots can happen, and lots will happen. for now, i cautiously support an Obama/Clinton ticket. and i hope (for now) we get two terms out of each. |
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Obama could get a good nights sleep knowing she would be there (in her pant suit) ready to answer the phone. |
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