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Old 01-26-2002, 01:16 PM   #21
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Originally posted by SicilianGoddess:
Then there are the losers like me, who never went to college. And now feel that I am past the point of being able to. Sure I've got a job that I love, and I make ok money, but this job cant last forever. Then what.

As someone who teaches at a university, I can honestly say that college isn't for everyone. I think there is a myth/stereotype in the US that you have to go to college in order to be successful. It's just not true, but I see a lot of students who hate college and should probably pursue something that will make them happier. They just go to college because it's the thing to do, not because it is a means to an end they want to achieve. That's why, IMHO, so many people come out with degrees that they don't use or don't need.

So if you didn't go to college and don't really feel the need to, then don't. That doesn't make you a loser in my book!

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Old 01-26-2002, 03:49 PM   #22
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O.K., it's definitely time for an "oldee" like me to step in.

I'll be 38 this year. I have a Ph.D. in biochemistry. I just obtained a new job where I'll do work in protein therapeutics. When people say, "Are you working on a cure for cancer?" for the first time in my life, I might actually reply "yes." That is a very special and powerful feeling.

However, did I know I wanted to be a scientist when I was 8? No. Did I know I wanted to do protein therapeutics when I was 22? No.

Half the FUN of life is finding out these discoveries about yourself. Don't view your uncertainties as burdens. Don't try to rush through life because you are too worried about your future. ENJOY IT! That's the WHOLE POINT of life. I just took a new job and I'm moving to another state. There's tons of uncertainties and insecurities there. Instead of worrying about how I might fail, I look at how I might excel. That's the fun of life.

I'm not married. I don't own a house. I have no children. At times, even I feel envious of my friends, those who have those things. Perhaps I "wasted" too much time in school - perhaps school prevented me from "living my life." I think, "If I didn't go to school, I might be married now. I might have children. And I'd definitely have a house." But then I take a closer look. Some of these friends who have these things also went to school with me. School didn't stop me from getting them - it was my choice not to get them. And when I realized that a whole new area of my life opened up. I no longer felt envious or resentful, but rather hopeful and excitied. I finally *seem* to have a handle on my career, but now I have a whole new wonderful area of my life that I have yet to explore.

Life will always be uncertain. And sometimes you do need to live part of it day by day, week by week, month by month and even year by year, until you discover your "path." But once we reach that epiphany and see our paths, we should embrace them. Don't let doubt and insecurity overwhelm you.

Sicy, if you are sure you want to go to school, then do it! It's never too late. I once knew a woman who didn't get her B.S. degree until she was nearly 50. It was her dream to get that degree and when the time was right, she got it. DanoSpano, perhaps you are just meant to work for a few years and gain experience in the world. That may not be what you want, but by embracing that challenge you may then see your future.

I've been on many U2 on-line groups for the past 7 years. All have disappointed me to some extent - but there is something special about Interference. When I became disillusioned here, it was the people of Interference that rose up and carried me on. As such, when I interact here, I only see intelligent, caring people who I know can accomplish anything. Bono wrote that he is unable to "see what you see" when he looks at the world. If this is true, then I actually pity Bono. For when I look at the world, I see a type of beauty I never saw before - I see a hope and a trust in the future. And that is indeed a wonderful sight.

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Old 01-26-2002, 08:36 PM   #23
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I'm relating way more than I'd like to admit to all of this.

I, too, have come to a crossroads of sorts in my life. After being laid off from a job I really loved and thought I was going to keep for at least a few years, I have been faced with many new roads I can take. I think it's all just a matter of how much I want certain things that will determine where I end up in life.

I hope everyone finds what they really want and finds happiness in it.

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Old 01-26-2002, 10:13 PM   #24
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While filling out my college application form this past week, I decided against majoring in marketing, and chose to go into pharmacy instead. Drastic switch, I know. I am not certain that this is best fit for me... I am going into it rather blindly, but I just keep telling myself that I can accomplish this if I set my mind to it. Science and Math are not my strongest points, which is why I thought I'd aim for a career in marketing... but I find that my interest lies more in the field of pharmacy. My dad is a nuclear pharmacist going on 28 years, so I have a pretty good feel for what it involves.

Anyway, I just wanted to wish everyone luck in their walks of life. Once I had to put a career path down on paper, I got to thinking about it more seriously... I'm going to just see how it goes. For now I'm still completing my senior year of high school, so I'm going to try and set the anxieties on the back burner, atleast until after I graduate

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Old 01-26-2002, 11:31 PM   #25
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Danospano, I can totally emphasize. If you've ever seen Reality Bites, I lived that. I should get royalties from that movie. Retail sucks. I'm sure you'll catch your breath and rise to the occasion. Keep one foot on the ground and one hand reaching to the stars. Best advice I ever heard.

theSoulfulMofo: I hope you're reading this... I'm sure someone famous said this already: Life is a marathon, the race does not go to the swift but to those who persevere.

It's really all about faith!
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Old 01-28-2002, 09:29 PM   #26
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I know how you feel, Danaspano. I graduated last month with a Bachelor's degree in art. I know eventually I want to do something in that field, but to be honest, I don't know what. I went into graphic design in college probably because everyone else was, but I think my strength is in my illustration work.I just took a management job at a small store. That job is one I could have most certainly gotten without a degree, but I have never made this much money or have taken to a job so quickly. It's easy and almost stress-free. The best part is that the owners know I will be moving on in a year or two. Hopefully in that time, I can figure out exactly where I want to be in 10 years.

And Sicy, if you ever get the desire to go go back to school, go! I had at least one job in the past where I was making good money, but I just wasn't happy..it wasnt worth it. I know how you feel about not looking too far ahead...Sometimes its good to be restless, and take risks. Fuck it...you only live once.If there's something you know you want to do...do it! You're still young!!!Of course, being able to pay the rent is cool, too.........


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Old 01-29-2002, 12:10 AM   #27
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I'm not married. I don't own a house. I have no children
But you have a cute liddle dalmatian...!


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Old 01-29-2002, 02:25 AM   #28
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Not to add additional stress here, but dont just jump into something for the sake of doing it - make sure it's what you really want to do for possibily the rest of your life - because if you dont, you'll end up like me - hating the job that you that you busted your ass 7 years to get!

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Old 01-29-2002, 02:27 AM   #29
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But you have a cute liddle dalmatian...!
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Old 02-06-2002, 05:38 PM   #30
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Wow-See what curiosity can do for you? I was just lookin' in here and Bam-I'm going thru that kind of uncertainity myself! And I thought I was the ONLY one lagging behind in life or somethin'! Whew-you all have put in some GOOD advice and it's really making me think about my next choices in life. It's NOT all about money but enjoying life. And I totally agree Deb-it's about faith! I hope you all find what you're lookin for!peace
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Old 02-08-2002, 03:51 PM   #31
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what comes to mind is the movie Tombstone, in the end where Doc is dying at the hospital in colorado... makes me cry when Doc tells Wyatt, if u were my friend you'd leave and go grab and hold onto that actress and never look back. (cough ATYCLB) but anyway it ties in with what he said about life, "There is no normal life, its just life." you gotta swing with what life brings you for better or for worse... despite all our attempts at determining our own fate, there's a certain amount of chaos that we cannot control that will always come our way...

so in Doc Holiday's immortal words...

"There is no normal life, its just life."
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Old 02-10-2002, 08:14 AM   #32
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Originally posted by Danospano:
I about to graduate from college and have goals, but none of them are easy. I wish that I could plan my whole life ahead of time so I wouldn't have to worry about the uncertainies of the future. I wish I had more time to plan for the future, and to build for the future.

Does anyone out there understand what I'm going through? I'm a total wreck and it's making me have a nervous breakdown!

Sure. I'm currently looking for my first job, and i'm nervous about messing up and getting fired - and it's gonna be even harder to find the job because it just didn't work out at college for me.

Life sometimes surprises me, but so far everything ended up ok.

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Old 02-10-2002, 10:46 AM   #33
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the great Frank Zappa said one time

"If you want to get laid, go to college, but if u want an education, go to the library." (c) Frank Zappa
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Old 02-14-2002, 09:09 PM   #34
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Danospano, I thought of you while listening to some old stuff:

He's a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn't have a point of view
knows not where he's going to
Isn't he a bit like you and me

Nowhere man please listen
You don't know what you're missin'
Nowhere man, the world is at your command


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Old 02-15-2002, 12:19 PM   #35
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Sicy, I can sympathise with you. I am the only person in my family without a fancy degree, in fact, I haven't gone to college at all. Not only that, but I went to a high school that pretty much drummed the message into your head that if you didn't go to university and make tonnes of money, you were useless.

I was supposed to be a dancer, but that didn't work out. I fell into my current field by accident, and have won a prestigious award doing it. But I still wonder if it is really what I was meant to do. I am reasonably content, but certainly not actively happy right now. What kind of a waste of life is it to not be happy where you spend almost all your time??? I have always thought that working is a waste of youth.

I have a house and a husband who also works in nonprofit, so there's NO WAY I can afford to go back to school and start over, although sometimes I am tempted by this. There is a 3 year full time teacher training program at the National Ballet School for example. I feel kind of trapped.

The only way I might get out of this rut is to find a better job in my field, or better yet, to write a best selling romance novel, but I don't have time to write it, bc I'm too busy writing Pleba stories and doing other stuff! BLARGH.

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