Governor Schwarzenegger

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It will be ineteresting to see how Governor Arnold compares to Campaigner Arnold. I didn't vote for him, but I'm willing to give him a chance.

Of course, I said something similar after the 2000 presidential election, so I'm not setting my hopes too high ...

Actually it will be interesting to see how much things change, if at all. For while we've elected a new governor, the members of the state legislature are still the same.
 
ThatGuy said:
It will be ineteresting to see how Governor Arnold compares to Campaigner Arnold. I didn't vote for him, but I'm willing to give him a chance.

Of course, I said something similar after the 2000 presidential election, so I'm not setting my hopes too high ...

Actually it will be interesting to see how much things change, if at all. For while we've elected a new governor, the members of the state legislature are still the same.

Yea I'll give him a chance to. I love Arnold the movie star but I didn't vote for him because he is a Republican. We shall see.
 
I don't imagine that this is a total disaster, if only because Arnold's fairly "liberal" platform. I guess if Clark can be called a Democrat in name only, then Arnold, perhaps, is a Republican in name only...lol.

But one thing I never understood was the charge by Democrats that the recall "subverted" democracy. On the contrary, the entire reason for the existence of the recall (one of the lasting relics of the Progressive movement of c. 1900-1920) was to *bring* democracy to the people, and allow them to hold their elected officials accountable not only on election years, but during their entire term. To be honest, despite the fact that pundits called this a "circus," this recall election was probably the most "democratic" election west of Louisiana.

But Arnold will have his moment of truth as well. Isn't there going to be the standard election for governor next year, as the term runs out? What fun...

Melon
 
What, so Arnold has been elected to finish Davis' term, and then next year the circus starts all over again? What a waste of resources, why not elect him for a full term starting now?
 
Hmm, I think melon has made a small mistake (not being a US citizen I'm not so sure about that of course). Davis was re-elected last November. Assuming that a governor is elected for 4 years that would mean the term ends in 2006. So Arnie will still have 3 years to fullfil (sp?) his promises.

Marty
 
The beauty of America...
A man doesn't have to have a great grasp of the English Language. He doesn't have to stand strongly on the issues. His past doesn't matter.

If you have a recognizable name and an R next to it, you'll get elected.
 
So Jay Leno introduced him last night?
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Austria's reaction to his win:

[q]Austria hails Arnie victory
People across Austria have been celebrating local boy Arnold Schwarzenegger's victory in California's elections.
The result, which was covered live on Austrian TV, delighted residents of his home region of Styria.

Politicians of all colours saluted his success and expressed the hope that he would boost Austria's image in America.

Mr Schwarzenegger's meteoric body-building, Hollywood and political careers followed humble beginnings in his native country, which he left 35 years ago.

The new governor has dual Austrian and US citizenship.

'Totally excited'

Residents of the Styrian capital, Graz, breakfasting on scrambled eggs and coffee in a local bar, broke into cheers as the new governor's speech was broadcast live.


Perhaps Americans might now stop mixing Austria up with Australia
Dieter Hardt-Stremayr
Graz tourist office
And in Mr Schwarzenegger's home town of Thal, mayor Peter Urdl, a social democrat, raised a glass of champagne to his former fellow school pupil.
"I can barely find the words. It is really super," he told Reuters news agency. "We are all sitting in front of the television and are totally excited."

Schoolfriend Josef Heinzl dismissed allegations that Mr Schwarzenegger had groped women on film sets.

"I have no doubt that he'll be one of the best governors California has ever had," he said. "He's a good man, a family man, and he stands for the people, not just for business alone."

'Busy line'

"His only flaw is that he is a Republican," joked restaurant owner Karl Kling, who also grew up with Mr Schwarzenegger.


Now the sun will never set on Austria - when the sun goes down over Austria, it will be rising over Sacramento
Waltraud Klasnic
Styria governor
Local tourist officials were also pleased by the result.
"Mozart is no longer the world's most famous Austrian," Dieter Hardt-Stremayr of Graz tourist office told AFP news agency.

"Perhaps Americans might now stop mixing Austria up with Australia."

Mr Schwarzenegger still has family in Austria, though cousin Monika Ficszko told Austrian TV she had been unable to congratulate him.

"I have his mobile number but I can't get through," she said. "The line's always busy."

'Brilliant victory'

Praise of Mr Schwarzenegger also came from the country's top politicians.

"Austria congratulates you on this brilliant victory," said Chancellor Wolfgang Schuessel.

"His success - first in sports, then professionally and now in politics - demonstrate to America and the world how good Austrians are," said Foreign Minister Benita Ferrero-Waldner.

Styria governor Waltraud Klasnic said Austria could only benefit from American interest in Mr Schwarzenegger's roots.

"Now the sun will never set on Austria," she said. "When the sun goes down over Austria, it will be rising over Sacramento."

Joerg Haider, far-right governor of Carinthia province, also congratulated Mr Schwarzenegger.

"His victory is a distinction which will boost Austria in the United States," he said.

Story from BBC NEWS[/q]
 
BonoVoxSupastar said:

A man doesn't have to have a great grasp of the English Language.

That isn't quite true. He's been in America for 30 years, and in that time he's learned English just fine. If you're referring to his thick Austrian accent, I remember reading a magazine article about ten years ago that talked about that. Apparently he was starting to lose that trademark accent, so he trained with a linguist to help preserve it.

And referring to your original quote, that didn't stop GWB from being elected, did it? :wink:
 
DrTeeth said:
What, so Arnold has been elected to finish Davis' term

Yes, but I will readily admit that I don't remember how much of that term has been filled. If Davis was elected last year, then, yes, there are three more years for Arnold.

Melon
 
Dreadsox said:


Early returns indicate that Arnold won the support of the majority of women voters today. This was according to CNN.

-i believe this election was a landslide...
--i also believe most of california population and voters saw thru the shenanigans and gutter politics of the of the opposing side..
---even the girls figured it out.
----i think also "over-polictical-correctness" took a backseat to common sense.
 
-it was nice to see the women voting block not capitulate to the fear tactics of the left..hypocrtical fear tactics i might add.

--it is also understood there are even some women who were disappointed they were never approached by the then actor.
 
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ThatGuy said:


That isn't quite true. He's been in America for 30 years, and in that time he's learned English just fine. If you're referring to his thick Austrian accent, I remember reading a magazine article about ten years ago that talked about that. Apparently he was starting to lose that trademark accent, so he trained with a linguist to help preserve it.

And referring to your original quote, that didn't stop GWB from being elected, did it? :wink:

My whole point is that Bush and he are very similar in these points and yes minus the accent he's not a very elogant speaker. The accent doesn't bother me.
 
julles said:
-it was nice to see the women voting block not capitulate to the fear tactics of the left..hypocrtical fear tactics i might add.

--it is also understood there are even some women who were disappointed they were never approached by the then actor.

Yeah that's great:|
 
julles said:
-it was nice to see the women voting block not capitulate to the fear tactics of the left..hypocrtical fear tactics i might add.


From an article in the LA Times, reprinted in Newsday:
Though men voted for the recall by a decisive margin, women were evenly divided. However, a racial and ethnic split emerged among women voters: Nearly four-fifths of African American women and a majority of Latinas were against the recall, but a majority of white women voted for it.

Full article here: http://www.nynewsday.com/nyc-davis1008,0,4690272.story?coll=nyc-breakingnews-simple

--it is also understood there are even some women who were disappointed they were never approached by the then actor.

Really. :rolleyes:
 
julles said:
-it was nice to see the women voting block not capitulate to the fear tactics of the left..hypocrtical fear tactics i might add.

--it is also understood there are even some women who were disappointed they were never approached by the then actor.

:eyebrow:

Dumbass.
 
Here's me injected a bit of humor into the situation. Anyone else like Dave Barry? :wink:

Living in a state of disrepair: California
DAVE BARRY

CALIFORNIA - I came out here because I've been reading disturbing reports that my state, Florida, is about to lose the coveted title of ''The Doofus State,'' which we Floridians worked so hard to win following the 2000 presidential election by not being able to figure out whom we voted for. We have been The Doofus State for just two lousy years, and now these greedy Californians, who had the title for decades, are trying to get it back.

I regret to say that they have an excellent shot. The political situation out here is very bad.

Q. How bad is it?

A. One of the saner-sounding people involved is Larry Flynt.

How did California get into this mess? Everybody agrees that the root cause is a person named ''Gray'' Davis, who has the warm personal charm of a sea urchin. Incredibly, Californians elected him governor twice. It's still not clear how this happened. Apparently, from time to time the entire California electorate goes to a bar and chugs industrial quantities of margaritas, and it gets late, and one thing leads to another, and the next morning the electorate wakes up in a dingy motel room, and there, snoring next to it, is: Gray.

To make matters worse, Gray lost the state budget surplus. California had this gigantic surplus, billions and billions of dollars, and now it's gone. They've looked everywhere, but nobody can find it. It is the Weapon of Mass Destruction of budget surpluses.

So now Gray is spectacularly unpopular. Everybody despises him. When he tries to get into the governor's house, his own dog attacks him. When he calls for his security personnel, they side with the dog.

Of course California is not the first state to find itself being led by a known bonehead. Many other states have gone through this ordeal, and the way they have traditionally handled it is to pretend that the bonehead is competent and popular, thus causing him to be so impressed with himself that he resigns from the governorship and runs for president of the United States.

But California has a unique system of government, known technically as the ''Any Random Loon Can Put Any Random Thing On the Ballot If Enough Random Loons Agree'' system. If you're a Californian, and you want to put something to a statewide vote, all you have to do is gather a couple of million signatures. That sounds like a lot, but in California you can get that many signatures in 45 minutes merely by approaching disgruntled motorists gridlocked on a freeway during rush hour (6:30 a.m-11:30 p.m.) and having them pass your petition from car to car. As a result, Californians are constantly voting on things. They have repealed gravity several times.

So now there's going to be an election to decide whether to recall Gray, and it is causing massive political turmoil. Gray is a Democrat, so the Democratic Party pretty much has to support him, although its support has been less than enthusiastic, as indicated by the party's official campaign slogan: ``Gray Davis: Maybe He'll Improve.''

If Gray gets dumped, there are literally hundreds of candidates vying to replace him. Under California election law, virtually anybody can run for governor, except of course smokers. Porn King Larry Flynt has courageously thrown his hat into the ring, despite the very real risk that he will draw attention to himself. (Larry's hat is still in the ring; nobody wants to pick it up, because who knows where that thing has been?)

Also on the ballot are Arnold Schwarzenegger (who has promised to straighten California out by, quote, 'Not making any more movies''); Arianna Huffington, former wife of former congressperson Michael Huffington; the Huffingtons' former cat, Puffington Huffington; Demi Moore; her cute new boyfriend; the Oakland Raiders; the late Bob Hope; and Harold R. Wankmilker, a resident of Nevada who accidentally got on the ballot when he attempted to pay a California speeding ticket by mail.

Gray's campaign strategy is to remind the voters that if they dump him, they'll wind up being governed by some wingnut. His opponents' strategy is to remind the voters that if they don't dump Gray, they'll wind up with: Gray. Opinion polls show that the voters currently favor Puffington.

But the point is that California is embarrassing itself hugely, and people are starting to forget about Florida, and all the hard work we Floridians did to become the top national laughingstock. Well, I have a message for you Californians: We're not going to take this lying down. You're in the limelight now, but there's another presidential election coming, and we're going to be ready.

We're bringing back the chads.
 
Here's me injected a bit of humor into the situation. Anyone else like Dave Barry? :wink:

Living in a state of disrepair: California
DAVE BARRY

CALIFORNIA - I came out here because I've been reading disturbing reports that my state, Florida, is about to lose the coveted title of ''The Doofus State,'' which we Floridians worked so hard to win following the 2000 presidential election by not being able to figure out whom we voted for. We have been The Doofus State for just two lousy years, and now these greedy Californians, who had the title for decades, are trying to get it back.

I regret to say that they have an excellent shot. The political situation out here is very bad.

Q. How bad is it?

A. One of the saner-sounding people involved is Larry Flynt.

How did California get into this mess? Everybody agrees that the root cause is a person named ''Gray'' Davis, who has the warm personal charm of a sea urchin. Incredibly, Californians elected him governor twice. It's still not clear how this happened. Apparently, from time to time the entire California electorate goes to a bar and chugs industrial quantities of margaritas, and it gets late, and one thing leads to another, and the next morning the electorate wakes up in a dingy motel room, and there, snoring next to it, is: Gray.

To make matters worse, Gray lost the state budget surplus. California had this gigantic surplus, billions and billions of dollars, and now it's gone. They've looked everywhere, but nobody can find it. It is the Weapon of Mass Destruction of budget surpluses.

So now Gray is spectacularly unpopular. Everybody despises him. When he tries to get into the governor's house, his own dog attacks him. When he calls for his security personnel, they side with the dog.

Of course California is not the first state to find itself being led by a known bonehead. Many other states have gone through this ordeal, and the way they have traditionally handled it is to pretend that the bonehead is competent and popular, thus causing him to be so impressed with himself that he resigns from the governorship and runs for president of the United States.

But California has a unique system of government, known technically as the ''Any Random Loon Can Put Any Random Thing On the Ballot If Enough Random Loons Agree'' system. If you're a Californian, and you want to put something to a statewide vote, all you have to do is gather a couple of million signatures. That sounds like a lot, but in California you can get that many signatures in 45 minutes merely by approaching disgruntled motorists gridlocked on a freeway during rush hour (6:30 a.m-11:30 p.m.) and having them pass your petition from car to car. As a result, Californians are constantly voting on things. They have repealed gravity several times.

So now there's going to be an election to decide whether to recall Gray, and it is causing massive political turmoil. Gray is a Democrat, so the Democratic Party pretty much has to support him, although its support has been less than enthusiastic, as indicated by the party's official campaign slogan: ``Gray Davis: Maybe He'll Improve.''

If Gray gets dumped, there are literally hundreds of candidates vying to replace him. Under California election law, virtually anybody can run for governor, except of course smokers. Porn King Larry Flynt has courageously thrown his hat into the ring, despite the very real risk that he will draw attention to himself. (Larry's hat is still in the ring; nobody wants to pick it up, because who knows where that thing has been?)

Also on the ballot are Arnold Schwarzenegger (who has promised to straighten California out by, quote, 'Not making any more movies''); Arianna Huffington, former wife of former congressperson Michael Huffington; the Huffingtons' former cat, Puffington Huffington; Demi Moore; her cute new boyfriend; the Oakland Raiders; the late Bob Hope; and Harold R. Wankmilker, a resident of Nevada who accidentally got on the ballot when he attempted to pay a California speeding ticket by mail.

Gray's campaign strategy is to remind the voters that if they dump him, they'll wind up being governed by some wingnut. His opponents' strategy is to remind the voters that if they don't dump Gray, they'll wind up with: Gray. Opinion polls show that the voters currently favor Puffington.

But the point is that California is embarrassing itself hugely, and people are starting to forget about Florida, and all the hard work we Floridians did to become the top national laughingstock. Well, I have a message for you Californians: We're not going to take this lying down. You're in the limelight now, but there's another presidential election coming, and we're going to be ready.

We're bringing back the chads.


:lol:

sd
 
One of the key factors in the outcome of the election - more people voted for Arnold than against the recall (i.e., for Davis).

Arnold will have a tough time over the next few years.

Democratic faithful were ready to sign petitions to recall Arnold (Maxine Waters stated so last night on CNN).
 
Here is what Mickey Kaus, who voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger, had to say about his candidate:

a) He's a crude serotonin victim who enjoys bullying men and women alike. Everyone knew there were stories like the LAT presented last week. I've heard more. He's not a groper the way Clinton was a groper -- Schwarzenegger seems to actually have a cruel streak. He enjoys humiliating others. With women, there's a sexual component -- but there are plenty of stories of him humiliating men. (And at least one of the groping incidents seems designed to humiliate the woman's husband more than the woman.)

b) He may not even be a social egalitiarian. This is one way to reconcile the accounts from famous actresses of "Arnold the Gentlemen" and the repulsive stories told by "below the line" film personnel. Of course Schwarzenegger's charming to the people he needs to be charming too -- such as fellow movie stars. But he lords it over people he can lord it over when he can get away with it. Let's just say this hierarchical behavior is not un-Germanic. But it is un-American. You'd think it would be especially troubling to someone, like me, who proclaims social equality the distinguishing goal of liberal politics.

and yet he voted for him? :tsk: this man deserves what he gets
 
nbcrusader said:
One of the key factors in the outcome of the election - more people voted for Arnold than against the recall (i.e., for Davis).

Arnold will have a tough time over the next few years.

Democratic faithful were ready to sign petitions to recall Arnold (Maxine Waters stated so last night on CNN).

Great let's just keep perpetuating the circus...jackasses all of them.
 
Not my state........another recall? Good grief. I'll keep up my jokes about the cat vote. No offense to people in California, just a little advice in warding off political burnout.
 
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