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Old 07-29-2012, 12:20 PM   #981
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This trip is supposed to showcase Romney the statesman - a man who takes relations with our allies more seriously than our current president and a man who would be better fit to negotiate these relationships. By all accounts his performance has been absolutely dismal so far. If anything it's helped reinforce the counter-arguments that Romney's rhetoric is just that - rhetoric, without meaningful substance to back it up.
For some people in the United States, taking relations more seriously means not bending over to other countries or not compromising US interest for the sake of certain relationships. That obviously does not sell well in Europe, but Israel appears to be impressed with Romney. A country I might add who's wise foreign policy over the past 60 years has insured its survival, sometimes against incredible odds.
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For some people in the United States, taking relations more seriously means not bending over to other countries or not compromising US interest for the sake of certain relationships.
What are you inferring here?

Who or what has compromised US interests and how?
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For some people in the United States, taking relations more seriously means not bending over to other countries or not compromising US interest for the sake of certain relationships. That obviously does not sell well in Europe, but Israel appears to be impressed with Romney. A country I might add who's wise foreign policy over the past 60 years has insured its survival, sometimes against incredible odds.
This reads like neo-con agitprop that even Ann Coulter couldn't say with a straight face circa 2004.

Israel is no friend to America, as evidenced by the fact the CIA considers Israel its No. 1 counterintelligence threat in the agency's Near East Division:

US Sees Israel, Tight Mideast Ally, As Spy Threat : NPR

The best approach for a president to take is simply not to deal with Israel any more. It should be left to deal with its own problems, they are nothing to do with the US. Of course, there is fat chance of that.
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For some people in the United States, taking relations more seriously means not bending over to other countries or not compromising US interest for the sake of certain relationships.
Romney's blunders in the UK had nothing to do with him "not bending over to other countries or not compromising US interest."

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A country I might add who's wise foreign policy over the past 60 years has insured its survival, sometimes against incredible odds.
I don't think I'd characterize Israel's foreign policy as wise.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:44 PM   #985
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Romney's blunders in the UK had nothing to do with him "not bending over to other countries or not compromising US interest."



I don't think I'd characterize Israel's foreign policy as wise.
Ok, can you remind me what they were?

Without a wise foreign policy, Israel would have been wiped from the map decades ago.
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Israel sure has great socialist health care. even Romney thinks so.
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A lot of the things he said in Israel are flat out wrong.

Except they will shore up his standing with the evangelicals, that may have been still hesitating.
He may have gained a few Jewish supporters in FL, OH and PA. All three of these are toss-ups if Romney can eak out wins in two, he should win it all.

So yes, Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.
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Romney had said at a breakfast fundraiser that he had pondered the reasons for Israel’s huge economic advantage over the neighboring territories.

“As you come here and you see the [Gross Domestic Product] per capita, for instance, in Israel which is about $21,000 dollars, and compare that with the GDP per capita just across the areas managed by the Palestinian authority, which is more like $10,000 per capita, you notice such a dramatically stark difference in economic vitality,” Romney said, according to a pool report.

In fact, the difference is far more stark than that. According to the World Bank, Israel’s GDP per capita is actually $31,282. The same figure for the Palestinian areas is around $1,600.

Romney said he had studied a book called “The Wealth and Poverty of Nations,” searching for an answer about why two neighboring places--the U.S. and Mexico, for instance, or Israel and the Palestinian areas--could have such disparate prosperity.

“Culture makes all the difference. Culture makes all the difference,” Romney said, repeating the conclusion he drew from that book, by David Landes. “And as I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognize the power of at least culture and a few other things.”

Romney also said he recognized “hand of providence in selecting this place [Israel].”
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I shouldn't put as incendiary a comment as I put before editing this post. But... just... wow.
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Mitt continues his Clark Griswold European vacation
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of course you don't, romney. it's because you're making this shit up as you go along and changing your position from one day to the next to best suit your needs. today you're for something, the next you're against it.

what

Rmoney has been totally consistent, and it is liberal slander to say otherwise. Sure his positions have changed, but they change with what the public wants! So it is true, Romney has been consistent in changing his policies to give us what we want. He will kick NObama in the rear come November.
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Rmoney has been totally consistent, and it is liberal slander to say otherwise. Sure his positions have changed, but they change with what the public wants! So it is true, Romney has been consistent in changing his policies to give us what we want. He will kick NObama in the rear come November.


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“Culture makes all the difference. Culture makes all the difference,” Romney said, repeating the conclusion he drew from that book, by David Landes. “And as I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognize the power of at least culture and a few other things.”

Romney also said he recognized “hand of providence in selecting this place [Israel].”
Um. Yeah.

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After Romney's disgraceful comments on his European tour, I am officially uncomfortable with a Mitt Romney presidency. For a long time I was convinced that a president really doesn't have that much power to have much major positive or negative impact on the country. Bush, with his administration pushing us into Iraq forever disabused me of this notion.

I still don't think Romney or Obama would be much different domestically, but I think a Romney foreign policy would be disastrous for our country if anything he's said lately is any indication. He's sounded little better than Sarah Palin, which is really disappointing.
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Just Newsweek trying to sell some magazines

Mitt the twit was better

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OMG, he's just laughable
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INDY, please, please speak to this!
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he's got to be trolling now.
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