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Old 04-05-2012, 10:08 AM   #561
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One could make the argument that patriotism (at least the kind that accomplishes anything worthwhile) wouldn't exist without collective responsibility.
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Old 04-10-2012, 01:36 PM   #562
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Santorum suspends GOP presidential campaign - latimes.com

well, this really is not news

except for the fact that Romney will be burning less cash in these primaries
and the November election will be the only focus now.
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Old 04-10-2012, 02:10 PM   #563
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Gosh, what a shame.

(Best wishes to the family in regards to their sick little daughter, though. No, really!)
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Romney was already pivoting to the national campaign over the last few weeks in his rhetoric, as well as Obama. I think having a definitive target now helps both campaigns as they ramp up for the national conventions.
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Santorum suspends GOP presidential campaign - latimes.com

well, this really is not news

except for the fact that Romney will be burning less cash in these primaries
and the November election will be the only focus now.
Not news? It just basically ended the GOP primaries. That's pretty big news. This thing was definitely going all the way to Tampa previous to that.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to votes going towards Newt and Paul at this point. Is there really a 'real conservative' vote that refuses to vote for Romney? Despite the fact that he's pretty much a lock for the nomination now, it's going to be very telling if people still wont vote for him by majority in some states such as Texas. That could have big implications for the 2012 elections come November.
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(Best wishes to the family in regards to their sick little daughter, though. No, really!)
Agreed with this. I feel for the poor little girl and the family having to deal with that.

But as for Santorum no longer being a presidential candidate? Thank goodness.
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How odd that he has decided to terminate this long into the campaign. That goes against everything he stands for...
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Conveniently, right before the Penn. primary.
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How odd that he has decided to terminate this long into the campaign. That goes against everything he stands for...
That was bad .
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yes he decided to abort, and not allow it to go to full term
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Conveniently, right before the Penn. primary.
He kept saying he wanted to visit Penn State, but if he did, he would have faced unreal opposition after his comments that the university is biased. Probably for the best.
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Well, according to most all reports it looks like the Republican Primary is basically over. Wow. What I thought would be one of the most exciting and dramatic years turned out to be exactly the opposite. It was, for the most part, a clown show from beginning to end. In a year that had all the potential for a "new Ronald Reagan" figure to emerge (you guys don't know how lucky we all are that it didn't happen) that figure just failed to materialize. Now they are left with a flip flopping Mormon who half the Republican voters can't stand and will NOT vote for. The only wild card is Romney's VP choice. If he picks a "moderate" that means you guys have another four years at least until the "Dark Horse" comes a marching. If he doesn't, anything could happen. I guess we should breath a small sigh of relief that Republican voters and candidates were not as cunning and devious as I had come to believe they were. The problem remains though that after another 4 years of Obama they will NOT let 2016 slip away...so enjoy these last 4 years folks...the time is not quite nigh!!
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The problem remains though that after another 4 years of Obama they will NOT let 2016 slip away...so enjoy these last 4 years folks...the time is not quite nigh!!
This is something that troubles me deeply, yes. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the GOP just bides its time waiting for a proper rebellion in a year when they know they have a legitimate shot to regain control.

I'm kinda glad to think the primaries are pretty much done and we can move on from here on out. This was a show of, "Let's see how far to the right we can go" more than anything else, and it wasn't entertaining me, it was scaring the crap out of me. If/when Gingrich drops out, I'll just be happy as can be that I don't have to listen to him or Santorum spout their loony BS on a regular basis anymore (presuming, of course, that they aren't VP nominees or some political publication or media outlet of some kind doesn't make them pundits).

Like I said before, though, I will thoroughly enjoy watching the Republicans talk about how they'll stand behind Romney through clenched teeth. It's kind of funny to see them not getting what they wanted and being stuck with Stock Politician 2.0.
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No more Santorum bs

"Other people" We womenfolk are such freaking morons. We know nothing about politics or economics, and we need men to control our bodies and our uteri too.

http://jezebel.com/5900852/men-like-...ys-herman-cain

Men Like Mitt Romney Because They’re Better Informed Than ‘Other People,’ Says Herman Cain

"Yes, President Obama is very likable to most people, if you just look at him and his family. But if you look at his policies, which is what most people disagree with, it's a different story. And I think many men are much more familiar with the failed policies than a lot of other people, as well as the general public."
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I think Herman Cain's view on women have been very apparent from the start.
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Can someone explain why you're only allowed two terms? Like if Obama wins this year, and then let's say does a really awesome job up until 2016, why does he have to go? It seems a bit like "well, let's give everybody a go". What if the candidates in 2016 suck?
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It came about when many were concerned with the abuse of power. Coming from a monarchy, many were fearful of one person having power for too long.

Throughout the last few decades people have tried to repeal this ammendment, starting when Reagan was president(interesting given how much conservatives try and treat the Constitution as some divinely written not up to interpretation document) and a few Democrats since then, but it's never really gained any momentum.

I completely understand the reasoning, but in the same breath very much on the fence. Part of me likes the idea of term limits for Congress, when you have some career politicians it seems like the longer you're in the more affected you are, therefore more prone to always favor the system over the people. But still there are some long term members that have done great things for this country and at the end of the day shouldn't it be up to the people?
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Classy thoughts from Cain there, as always . Such sweet talkers, those guys-and the Republicans can't figure out why women are backing away from them as quickly as possible.

I'm in agreement with BVS's post on that issue, and the "up to the people to decide" thing is the strongest point I could think of for being against term limits, and a great point at that. But ultimately, I would have to lean towards supporting term limits, no matter how awesome the candidate. We've seen how power can corrupt people when they're only there a few short years, I'd shudder to think of what could happen if someone just had unlimited power. Even good people can get corrupted, or if not that, get stuck in their own era's mindset and not be aware of the changes and needs of the coming generations.

And no term limits sound great if it's a candidate you like, definitely, like Obama. But imagine a President Santorum, for instance, being president for as long as he wants.
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Can someone explain why you're only allowed two terms? Like if Obama wins this year, and then let's say does a really awesome job up until 2016, why does he have to go? It seems a bit like "well, let's give everybody a go". What if the candidates in 2016 suck?
presidents had unofficially done it for ages since that was how many terms washington served before he decided to retire. the only president we've ever had to serve more than two is fdr - he served three, was elected for four (he died before his fourth term started). it was made official after he died when the amendment was added to the constitution.

and yes like angela said, you've also got to look at the worst of it too. bush could still be president if it weren't for the term limitations. i frankly think we should have these in place for all levels of government office. i'm sick of career politicians, and i don't see how an 80 year old senator is fucking helpful anyway. eight years is plenty of time to do your thing and hand the reins over to someone else. if you were good, it'd be whoever you endorsed. if the tides have turned, then the other side gets a shot.

and cain's irrelevant. i hadn't even thought of him since he left the race in disgrace. this is just a way for him to get a headline, plain and simple. he needs to sit down.
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Every position should be one term. That way no one legislates with re-election in mind.
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