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Old 03-03-2012, 02:24 AM   #201
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Ugh, look at that liberal, feminist entitlement dripping form those slutty lips, eh, Indy?

Response: Pelosi, Pelosi, Pelosi! Al Gore!
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Old 03-03-2012, 09:17 AM   #202
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Romney Tax Plan Without Unspecified Base Broadeners; Baseline: Current Policy; Distribution of Federal Tax Change by Cash Income Percentile, 2015

To sum up: Romney's tax plan would increase taxes on the lowest earners and reduce it on the highest earners, while adding hundreds of billions to the deficit.
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Oh joy, it's Super Tuesday already.

Go everyone but Mitt! I want this shit brokered.
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:50 AM   #205
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that testimony was a fluke.
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I do think the Newt or a super villain one was funnier, but still. It's Mittens or Burns.



Oh and Ann Romney doesn't consider herself to be wealthy.

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“We can be poor in spirit, and I don’t even consider myself wealthy, which is an interesting thing, it can be here today and gone tomorrow,”
Ann Romney: 'I Don't Consider Myself Wealthy' | ThinkProgress
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Can't you try a little harder?

Try this link instead. I think you'd be better served getting your soundbites from RCP than from ThinkProgress, trojanchick. I'm looking out for you.

Ann Romney: "I Don't Even Consider Myself Wealthy" | RealClearPolitics

ThinkProgress edited her comments down to a pathetic, phony 13-second clip to fit the narrative that they're going to be running with for the next eight months. If you listen to her full statement, she was referring to her illness, and how the support of friends and family are what gets her through- not her money. Her family's wealth doesn't define her. Her illness and dedicating her time trying to help those in her same position do.
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Sandra Fluke v. Joe the Plumber - By Jonah Goldberg - The Corner - National Review Online

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You may recall that when Joe Wurzelbacher was approached by Barack Obama entirely accidentally, he became something of a political celebrity for having a philosophical disagreement with the president over spreading the wealth around and all that. Before long, the mainstream press went to battle stations to discredit the man. He didn’t even have a plumber’s license! (didn’t need one in Ohio). He had financial problems! He was a fraud! An astroturf plant! Blah blah blah. The Democrats, likewise, were unrestrained in their efforts to ridicule the man. Here’s Joe Biden ridiculing Wurzelbacher (and offering a tendentious argument about taxes).

Meanwhile, here’s Sandra Fluke a 30-year-old law student and committed political operative and activist. And yet the mainstream press can’t muster the slightest skepticism about her efforts.

Even Jake Tapper, easily among the fairest of MSM reporters, treats Fluke with kid gloves as if she’s simply a victim of history (note: I think she was an unfair victim of Limbaugh’s ill-advised and offensive attacks, but she has to be delighted with how successful she’s been over the last month). I don’t begrudge Fluke her efforts. She’s an activist and she seized the opportunity presented to her by Congressional Democrats and the press.

Still, I think the comparison is interesting in numerous ways. When average citizens are thrust into the political debate, they are heroes — if they confirm prevailing liberal arguments. When they run against the grain of the preferred narrative, they are ground down, caricatured, and treated to corrosive media skepticism.

Obviously, there are differences between the two cases. Some are relevant, some aren’t. If you think Fluke is special because she’s a woman, that’s awfully chivalrous of you (and I might even agree!). But such old-fashioned deference to the delicate sensibilities of women is not exactly a pose we’re told feminists of Fluke’s stripe support. Moreover, as Kirsten Powers notes in an excellent column, such deference to the fairer sex is not a standard liberals support when the woman in question is a conservative.
Just ask Carrie Prejean on that last point. She only responded to a pageant question (with the same answer Barack Obama gives by the way) and caught hell for it from the "tolerant" Left.

Rush should be repudiated for the name-calling but more importantly he's completely taken the spotlight off the issue of government encroachment into healthcare and Barack Obama's willingness to give precedent to a mandate deemed into law by the Secretary of Health and Human Services over an enumerated constitutional right.
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Conservatives have made an art form out of playing the victim.

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I must have missed the War on Joe the Plumber. Or maybe it is being greatly exaggerated.
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Just ask Carrie Prejean on that last point. She only responded to a pageant question (with the same answer Barack Obama gives by the way) and caught hell for it from the "tolerant" Left.

Rush should be repudiated for the name-calling but more importantly he's completely taken the spotlight off the issue of government encroachment into healthcare and Barack Obama's willingness to give precedent to a mandate deemed into law by the Secretary of Health and Human Services over an enumerated constitutional right.
Eh, I think you (and Jonah Goldberg) are reaching on this one.

So she's an activist. Shocking! How else do you think she ended up testifying?

And what does her role as an activist have to do with the slanderous things Rush said about her, not to mention his utter misrepresentation of her testimony.

If Rush wanted to keep the spotlight on the issue of government encroachment, he could have. Instead he went down a much uglier road.
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Can't decide whether to vote tomorrow or not.

Don't want Santorum to win Ohio. . .

But I also prefer to see Obama get another term, something less likely if Romney grabs the nomination.
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If Rush wanted to keep the spotlight on the issue of government encroachment, he could have. Instead he went down a much uglier road.
Like he said, he was just trying to be humorous. Shaming women is funny. Calling women sluts and prostitutes, then telling them to make it worth your while by posting some sex tapes online-always funny.

Then he had to add the dig about recreational sexual activities in his so called apology. The sponsors were leaving, thus the apology.
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Can't decide whether to vote tomorrow or not.

Don't want Santorum to win Ohio. . .

But I also prefer to see Obama get another term, something less likely if Romney grabs the nomination.
If you're a registered Democrat you don't vote there tomorrow, do you?

Not assuming you are
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If Rush wanted to keep the spotlight on the issue of government encroachment, he could have. Instead he went down a much uglier road.
I agree 100%.
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Can't decide whether to vote tomorrow or not.

Don't want Santorum to win Ohio. . .

But I also prefer to see Obama get another term, something less likely if Romney grabs the nomination.
Obama should easily beat Romney, but if for some reason he does not win, wouldn't you rather have the least offensive GOP candidate.
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I agree 100%.


but do you see that this is why non-conservatives think that you all really don't give a damn about religious freedom. you care about sex. specifically, women being given the license to have sex like men do -- without fear of getting pregnant.

after all, if it were about religious freedom, isn't that the argument Rush would have put forward to his vast audience of 15m people?

it isn't. he called her a slut. he said that she wanted to fuck on the taxpayer's dime. Rick Santorum took this opportunity to talk not about religious freedom but about what contraception itself actually does to, like, the soul of our nation or whatever. and then we had all-male panles talking about female contraception (which was like lobbing one over the plate and Obama and the Dems duly smacked this one out of the park).

i think that there is a "religious freedom" argument to be made. i don't think it holds up, but it can be made.

but that isn't what the Republican Party has been talking about since 2/13/12. they've been talking about how birth control has made women slutty.
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I think the religious freedom argument has to be reasonable. But sometimes the most unreasonable problem wrapped up in these issues resides right inside of the religion itself. We can't allow people to believe just anything and give them that license. And I say this as a civil libertarian. It's just...I'm very reasonable.

I don't know the specific law, but if an adult Jehovah's Witness allowed his child to die because of refusal of blood transfusion, that isn't "religious freedom" to me. They should be carted off to jail on the spot. As a people, we are allowed - even by the Constitution - to deem what is reasonable.

Anyhow, it's 2012. Don't call us crazy or liberal of Leftist for simply not following all of the 2 and 3,000 year old dogmas that were originally designed to keep horny men from fucking everything that moves. Lewis Black had a great routine about this very subject. Many of us have a strong moral code. And ironically, it may have even come from religion directly. Why are we seeing such a great Libertarian wave among some conservatives (say aged 40 to 45 and under)? The partisan bullshit is getting more and more apparent.

When you take something like this issue, with all of the important things on the table, all it really does is serve to show how silly it all is. The partisan bullshit. Why only now are Rush's advertisers jumping ship? Why not amid of the other countless controversies?

I think more people are getting wise to a lot of it...well, I hope that's the reason.

I predict that the best thing that occurs after this 2012 election season is that the conservative movement seriously re-evaluates itself.
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Obama should easily beat Romney, but if for some reason he does not win, wouldn't you rather have the least offensive GOP candidate.
Yeah but Ron Paul has no chance.
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I read Rush Limbaugh's comments today.

...you've got to be fucking kidding me, right?

I seriously fear for the mental health of people who think that was in any way acceptable. What a fucking pig of a human.
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