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Old 01-10-2012, 07:53 PM   #281
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can we also agree that the "right fringe" has much, much more power over the GOP than the "left fringe" has over the Democrats?
i will agree to this first part.

I am however non-committal to the second part.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:20 PM   #282
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I'm baffled that you think these are equivalents. Michael Moore and AWOL theories I would say are more equivalent to Hannity or Rush. I just don't see an equivalent on the left that equals the birthers/ Obama is a Muslim socialist types, at least not one that mainstream candidates are catering to.
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Sitting here having just watched Ron Paul speak, As a liberal, I really hope he runs as a Libertarian in the general election. I know it's not at all likely because of Rand Paul, but I still hope it happens. He could completely screw Romney(or whoever) just by being on the ballot in November.
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One exit poll tidbit that caught my eye re:Santorum, only 8% of the Catholic voters went for him (more than a third of these voters were Catholic); he did three times as well with evangelicals, but still not quite as well as Romney.

Unsurprisingly Paul did the best with 18-to-29-year-olds (47%); they were only 12% of these voters though.
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:10 PM   #285
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Sounds like turnout was very low as well.
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I like this

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Carter would be 'pleased' with nominee Romney
By: Alexander Burns


From the department of unhelpful praise, former President Jimmy Carter tells Rachel Maddow he's a-ok with the idea of Mitt Romney as the GOP presidential nominee.

"I'm not taking a position, but I would be very pleased to see him win the Republican nomination," Carter told the MSNBC host, according to advance interview excerpts.

Carter's kind words for the GOP only go so far, and the Georgia Democrat also said he doesn't think "anybody's going to beat Obama."

But this isn't the first time Carter has given generous quotes about one of Obama's challengers. Back in May, he said in a CNN interview that Jon Huntsman was "very attractive to me personally" as a White House contender.
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Sounds like turnout was very low as well.
I wouldn't say "very low." It was about 230,000, down about 10,000 from 2008. There wasn't the same dynamic and excitement over who the winner was going to be, so that's probably expected.
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it was 11000 more


2012 N H GOP primary turnout Total 246,252 100%

2008 N H GOP primary turnout Total 234,851 100%


and 2008 was up for grabs, a much closer race


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Ham..._primary,_2012


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Ham..._primary,_2008
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looks like the N H Sec of State

nailed it a day before the election

Big turnout expected for N.H. primary

he got it within 1%
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this is a good one

basically says, the fix is in for Romney to win South Carolina

: Romney Will Win in South Carolina
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I'm sure Nominee-elect Mittens will clean up Washington from Obama's banker money...

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I find it highly ironic that Ron Paul's top 3 contributors are from the military.
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I wouldn't say "very low." It was about 230,000, down about 10,000 from 2008. There wasn't the same dynamic and excitement over who the winner was going to be, so that's probably expected.


Republican turnout was down 16%. seems enthusiasm for Paul lured independents to the polls.
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So this is an odd story I came across on Yahoo! today...

Santorum’s Communist Clan - Yahoo! News
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US stereotypes of Italians don't include 'radical Commie subversives' so no one will care. If they had some juicy gossip about uncles in the Mafia or something (not that that's likely in Trentino) it might briefly attract notice.
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The Dark Side of Mitt Romney | Politics | Vanity Fair

This sums up exactly what I think of him. Of course he's hardly the first politician that this applies to.

"Lacking an easy rapport with voters, he would come across as aloof, even off-putting. “A lot of it is he is patrician. He just is. He has lived a charmed life,” said one former aide. “It is a big challenge that he has, connecting to folks who haven’t swum in the same rarefied waters that he has.”



There's some interesting stuff in that article
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Oh, yeah, I don't think the Santorum story's going to make massive waves or anything. I just found it random and interesting . If he had Mafia ties of some kind, that would defintely be quite a story.

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“A lot of it is he is patrician. He just is. He has lived a charmed life,” said one former aide. “It is a big challenge that he has, connecting to folks who haven’t swum in the same rarefied waters that he has.”
BINGO.

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He has little patience for idle chatter or small talk, little interest in mingling at cocktail parties, at social functions, or even in the crowded hallway. He is not fed by, and does not crave, casual social interaction, often displaying little desire to know who people are and what makes them tick.
He's in the wrong career, then, clearly.

I've used the description before, but he's always come off appearing like a used car salesman to me. There's just something too slick and slightly unsettling about him that bothers me.

And the religion stuff is just plain weird. That whole story with the woman and the babies, what the heck?

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“What I do feel bad about,” she wrote, “is that at a time when I would have appreciated nurturing and support from spiritual leaders and friends, I got judgment, criticism, prejudicial advice, and rejection.”
WWJD, indeed. This is why religion and politics should stay as separate as possible. And while it's nice to see he loves his wife, at the same time, some of his behavior and-devotion, I'll say, struck me a bit...strange.

And I'm still curious as to why Republicans who are so deadset against the federal goverment are running for a position in the government they claim to hate and they feel should stay out of everyone's lives (except when it comes to women's bodies and who can get married and wiretapping citizens and so on and so on). They have solutions to the problems, but if they hold a position within the federal government, they can't utilize those solutions, because to do that would mean the federal government would be interfering and...*Head spins, feels dizzy*.
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I'm baffled that you think these are equivalents. Michael Moore and AWOL theories I would say are more equivalent to Hannity or Rush. I just don't see an equivalent on the left that equals the birthers/ Obama is a Muslim socialist types, at least not one that mainstream candidates are catering to.
Then i guess you will have to stay baffled then.

I don't know how else to explain what im trying to say so we can just leave it at that. Sound okay?

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And I'm still curious as to why Republicans who are so deadset against the federal goverment are running for a position in the government they claim to hate and they feel should stay out of everyone's lives (except when it comes to women's bodies and who can get married and wiretapping citizens and so on and so on). They have solutions to the problems, but if they hold a position within the federal government, they can't utilize those solutions, because to do that would mean the federal government would be interfering and...*Head spins, feels dizzy*.

And the only people who should be presidents and senators and congresspeople are those who want to keep growing the federal government endlessly? How does change get enacted that way? How do we still have a country 50 years from now?

"I don't like the way this company is being run, so I should never aspire to lead it."
"I don't like the status of our education system, so I should never be a teacher."
"I think there's an inadequate amount of research in a certain area of science or medicine, so I won't grow up and be a doctor or scientist."

See how illogical that sounds? It's the same idea as you're putting forth. You can be cynical and give up, or you can put yourself out there and try to right the ship.

I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say, to be honest. Republicans are "deadset against the federal government?" What does that mean? Implementing conservative ideas would mean massive interference in peoples' lives? I'm not following.
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