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Old 12-15-2011, 06:54 PM   #881
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Q: So a person can then choose to be straight?

GINGRICH: Look, people choose to be celibate.
This has to be the dumbest thing I've heard in ages. I wish Newt's parents had "chosen to be celibate."
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Old 12-15-2011, 07:39 PM   #882
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I like his foreign policy proposals, but his domestic policy ideas would destroy what's left of this economy.
I feel the exact opposite.
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I feel the exact opposite.
Please explain how putting us back on the gold standard will do anything but completely ruin the economy. I'm also not a big fan of rolling back stuff such as environmental regulations and leaving it all up to the states. Now if he were to win, I doubt he would get anywhere with Congress domestically and he would be far more successful foreign policy wise and protecting our civil liberties like rolling back stuff like the Patriot Act, and the detention shit.
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I'm also not a big fan of rolling back stuff such as environmental regulations and leaving it all up to the states.
I'm assuming you're not a big fan of the constitution either, then?
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Dear Newt Gingrich,
I recently saw you stand up in front of a group of people and allow some of the most
idiotic, unfounded, racist, and ignorant words pass your lips that I’ve ever heard
from a member of a group of the most unqualified presidential candidates America
has ever seen.
To have the audacity to say that poor kids, and let’s be clear that’s republican speak
for black and brown kids, “have no habits of working and nobody around them who
works” is not only an insult to me as black man who grew up in one of those “really
poor” neighborhoods you spoke of, but it’s an insult to my mother. And it’s an insult to
many other black, brown and white children, adults, and hard working parents(often single
parents) who get up every single day to try to provide a better life for their children in
poor neighborhoods.

As a child who grew up in Compton in the early 90′s, one of the most dangerous
neighborhoods in America at that time, I watched my mother work tirelessly, sometimes juggling multiple jobs to provide for myself and my sister. Day in and day out like many other parents in poor neighborhoods, she did what she had to do in order to provide for us. You know what that turned into Mr. Gingrich?
A son who received academic and athletic scholarship offers from three Ivy League schools
and countless other universities, a son with a college degree in Criminal Justice who
graduated with honors from every school he attended, and a daughter who not only
attended a Gifted and Talented Education high school, but is one year away from
completing a degree at UCLA.
This is not just the case for my family. I know I speak for many other hard working
black, brown, and poor white families who have the same experiences in the poor
neighborhoods you look down upon from your elitist 1% out of touch pedestal. To say that
an entire community “literally has no habit of showing up on Monday” or “they have no
habit of staying all day” I say that is a load of shit.
Millions of poor children watch their parents show up Monday and many of them
sometimes have to suffer from the fact that their parents have to stay at work ALL DAY.
And lastly, you suggest that to remedy this “problem” as you so blindly see it is to make
poor kids assistant janitors and pay them to clean the restrooms? Your solution is child
labor. Degrading young children by suggesting they clean toilets while painting all union workers as lazy leeches. It’s a shame they don’t have the work ethic of hard working Americans like Kim Kardashian who worked so hard in her sex tape before we crowned her a role model for young girls and showered her with money and adoration or Paris Hilton who was forced to clean so many toilets as a teen to learn “work ethic” before her parents handed over the millions.
This not only echoes the depth of your ignorance, but just how truly unqualified
you are to ever be president of this country. Your assumption that poor people have no
ingrained work ethic and “have no habit of ‘I do this and you give me cash’ unless it’s
illegal” is not only dangerously ignorant but it proves you have no connection with the
true heart of this country.
I believe I speak for most if not all of “poor” America when I say Mr. Gingrich you have
no habit of performing, thinking or speaking in a manner that warrants becoming the
leader of the free world and the 45th president of these United States of America. You
represent a party of greedy, selfish, out of touch, wealth protecting, non tax paying,
destroyers of the middle class. You know nothing about us. But your words in your
speech in Des Moines told us everything about you.
Which is why I hope you win your party’s nomination. So that poor and impoverished
families can at least experience four more years of a man working diligently to help
them and the communities they call home that you have proven to know nothing about.
president number 44.
PS. You look like someone poured mashed potatoes into a suit

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I'm assuming you're not a big fan of the constitution either, then?
Oh, come on...
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I'm assuming you're not a big fan of the constitution either, then?
Where in the hell did you get that from? Wanting to breathe clean air, drink clean water, and eat safe food is somehow unconstitutional? Please explain, also please answer my question, I'm curious..How would putting us back on the gold standard do anything other then destroy the economy?
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Where in the hell did you get that from? Wanting to breathe clean air, drink clean water, and eat safe food is somehow unconstitutional?
Of course not. But, according to the constitution, namely the tenth amendment, that's a total state issue, not a federal government one.

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Please answer my question, I'm curious..How would putting us back on the gold standard do anything other then destroy the economy?
Would it cause a somewhat negative effect in the immediate future? Possibly. But it would help avoid a total destruction of the US economy in the future when the dollar continues to drop down to nothing.
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Of course not. But, according to the constitution, namely the tenth amendment, that's a total state issue, not a federal government one.
Can you show the exact language that forbids this? Thanks.
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Can you show the exact language that forbids this? Thanks.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Nowhere in the constitution is the power to pass environmental protection laws that the states are forced to comply with delegated to the government. So clearly, the power to pass environmental protection laws is a power reserved to the states. Your welcome.
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Of course not. But, according to the constitution, namely the tenth amendment, that's a total state issue, not a federal government one.



Would it cause a somewhat negative effect in the immediate future? Possibly. But it would help avoid a total destruction of the US economy in the future when the dollar continues to drop down to nothing.
EPA is under the executive branch umbrella. It is perfectly constitutional. Look at Beijing, hell look back at the 60s and 70s. I don't want to go back to that. It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Until the 70s States did a piss poor job of regulating businesses that dumped mercury and other toxic chemicals into the water supply and God knows what into the air.

re: gold standard
As for a negative effect...Global trade will come to a standstill, there won't be enough gold-backed money to go around so people would hold onto their money..the rich will get richer, and the poor will get poorer. The U.S. government would be unable to respond quickly to economic shocks.. Recessions would last longer, depressions would become frequent, any economic growth would cause deflation which would make anything domestically produced more expensive, while foreign imports would grow cheaper. This would lead to even larger trade deficits. Nothing good would come from it.
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"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Nowhere in the constitution is the power to pass environmental protection laws that the states are forced to comply with delegated to the government. So clearly, the power to pass environmental protection laws is a power reserved to the states. Your welcome.
This is like picking and choosing while quoting the Bible, without context it 's worthless.
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EPA is under the executive branch umbrella. It is perfectly constitutional. Look at Beijing, hell look back at the 60s and 70s. I don't want to go back to that. It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Until the 70s States did a piss poor job of regulating businesses that dumped mercury and other toxic chemicals into the water supply and God knows what into the air.
Is burdening the states with MANDATORY programs it has no ability to pay for responsibly by themselves, without giving them the proper funds to put these programs into action, I must've missed the part in the constitution that allows this.

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As for a negative effect...Global trade will come to a standstill, there won't be enough gold-backed money to go around so people would hold onto their money..the rich will get richer, and the poor will get poorer. The U.S. government would be unable to respond quickly to economic shocks.. Recessions would last longer, depressions would become frequent, any economic growth would cause deflation which would make anything domestically produced more expensive, while foreign imports would grow cheaper. This would lead to even larger trade deficits. Nothing good would come from it.
How do you figure global trade will come to a standstill? And how exactly do you think the global economy will be effected when the government continues to print more and more paper money, until it's worth next to nothing?
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Is burdening the states with MANDATORY programs it has no ability to pay for responsibly by themselves, without giving them the proper funds to put these programs into action, I must've missed the part in the constitution that allows this.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Breathing clean air and drinking clean water is in everyone's best interest. Hence, environmental regulation promotes the general Welfare of the entire country.


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How do you figure global trade will come to a standstill? And if I may, I'd like to ask how you think the global economy will be effected when the government continues to print more and more paper money, until it's worth next to nothing?

No nation could afford to have a trade deficit, because money is backed by gold. A deficit would mean a loss of gold to that nation. A loss of gold, means deflation. So every nation would strive to be net exporters. No buyers will be left to trade with. Bye bye global trade.
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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Breathing clean air and drinking clean water is in everyone's best interest. Hence, environmental regulation promotes the general Welfare of the entire country.





No nation could afford to have a trade deficit, because money is backed by gold. A deficit would mean a loss of gold to that nation. A loss of gold, means deflation. So every nation would strive to be net exporters. No buyers will be left to trade with. Bye bye global trade.
Totally dodged the questions on both accounts.
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Totally dodged the questions on both accounts.
Are you fucking kidding me? Learn how to read. Oh I forgot, knowing how to read makes you an intellectual elitist.
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Are you fucking kidding me? Learn how to read. Oh I forgot, knowing how to read makes you an intellectual elitist.
Come on man, you're an intelligent guy. Resorting to swearing and insults makes it seem otherwise.

I asked where it says that the government can burden the states with regulations the states can't afford, and not give them the federal funds to put those regulations into action. You explained why the government has to protect the environment.

I asked what you think will happen when the downtrend in the dollar continues, to the point where the government prints so much backless money, that the dollar is worth next to nothing. You explained what would happen if we went to a gold standard.

I'd say that's not quite answering my questions.
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Gingrich’s colleagues were, however, right to bring his tenure to an end. His character flaws -- his impulsiveness, his grandiosity, his weakness for half-baked (and not especially conservative) ideas -- made him a poor Speaker of the House. Again and again he combined incendiary rhetoric with irresolute action, bringing Republicans all the political costs of a hardline position without actually taking one. Again and again he put his own interests above those of the causes he championed in public.
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I'm assuming you're not a big fan of the constitution either, then?
I'm assuming you think amendments are anti-patriotic?
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