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Old 12-04-2011, 09:57 PM   #681
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Funny how that ad seems to be above Herman Cain's.

Oh God I'm not so sure anymore.
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n00t's running for president of white, rural America:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=brdrjLavTzU
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I have to say, although a Democrat (or left of that by most Western non-US standards) I really hate the fact that the GOP can't find a semi-decent contender to go up against Obama and really challenge the guy. At least that's how it seems from this point.

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that's what happens when a political party turns into a suicide cult.
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The 2012 Republican primary probably won't be much like the 2008 Democratic primary, but Mitt Romney's campaign is organizing just in case the nomination fight against Newt Gingrich lasts all the way into the spring. The New York Times' Trip Gabriel and Jeff Zeleny report that if neither Romney or Gingrich have decisive victories in the early voting states, "Gingrich could be faced with the ultimate challenge to his campaign: the need to survive a war of attrition of the sort for which he is unprepared at the moment." Romney's organized in Alabama, Indiana, Delaware, and lots of other later-voting states, while Gingrich's campaign didn't file the paperwork in time to get on the Missouri caucus ballot. The Washington Post's Philip Rucker, too, reports that Gingrich's campaign is trying to create a huge organization in just a couple weeks, with staffers sending all-caps emergency emails to Republicans in Ohio to get enough signatures to get on that state's ballot. Ohio votes in March, though, and it doesn't seem likely that both guys will be around by then. Not only does Gingrich not have the organization of Obama, he doesn't have the message Republicans want to hear or an army of new voters to help him win in late-voting states.

The establishment candidate is also the organized candidate

Outsider Obama outmaneuvered frontrunner Clinton by organizing in late-voting states, and by having a strong organization in the Iowa caucuses. But this year, the well-organized candidate is also the establishment choice: Romney. Obama's surprise victory in Iowa was thanks to his organization -- really important for Democrats, as Matthew Dowd, who was chief strategist for George W. Bush in 2004, explains at ABC News. But that organization isn't important for Republicans in the state, he says. The Democratic caucus "involves meeting certain mandated thresholds, convening in groups at each caucus, reconvening, and using various mathematical equations that are instrumental to choosing a winner," Dowd writes, but Republicans just show up and vote, and then those votes are counted. That means enthusiasm matters as much as organization.

The Post reports that Gingrich has hired Bush veteran Gordon C. James to build his organization, saying, “I’m just banking on 33 years with the Bush family and all those friends I’ve made to help us do that." But while James might have a lot of friends, Gingrich has a ton of enemies. Sen. Tom Coburn, who was first elected in 1994 -- Gingrich's Republican Revolution -- said on Fox News Sunday that he wasn't "inclined" to support Gingrich. Coburn explained, "There’s all types of leaders. Leaders that instill confidence, leaders that are somewhat abrupt and brisk. Leaders that have one standard for the people that they’re leading and a different standard for themselves. I just found his leadership lacking."

Obama's secret weapon was young people, Gingrich's is old people

Obama was able to bring in new voters outside of the traditional groups that lined up behind Clinton: young people. But Gingrich's "secret weapon," as Talking Points Memo's Benjy Sarlin put it, is old people. Enthusiasm for Gingrich is not among insurgent activists, but seniors.

Gingrich will have a hard time attacking Romney on health care

Another problem Gingrich will have in sustaining the enthusiasm of the piss-off Republican party base is that he's weak on the issue they care about most. Obama had the advantage of a record of being against the Iraq war early on, which appealed to Democrats frustrated by eight years of the Bush administration, while Clinton had voted to authorize the war in 2002. Clinton was seen as much more hawkish. But Gingrich can't make a similar contrast Romney, because in the 1990s he endorsed the part of Obama's health care overhaul -- the individual mandate -- that Republicans hate the most.

Obama had a disciplined campaign, Gingrich doesn't

Obama's campaign valued loyalty -- and no leaking to the press. Obama strategist David Axelrod even told Politico, "There are no assholes. There are going to be no assholes on this campaign.” That helped limit stories about internal bickering that plagued Clinton's campaign. By contrast, Gingrich's campaign staff quit on him this summer, and then proceeded to talk mad smack about him in the press for days.

A long primary gave Obama a lot of time to introduce himself to people who'd never heard of him, while a long primary gives Gingrich a chance to remind people why he was run out of town in 1998

A four- or five-month long process means there'd be lots of time to rehash the Gingrich years: impeachment, ethics probe, marriages, the government shutdown. And a long nomination fight means Gingrich will have more opportunities to indulge in one of his weaknesses -- saying things that make Republicans really mad. Gingrich famously called a Republican plan to overhaul Medicare "right-wing social engineering," and it nearly killed his campaign. In the last couple weeks, Gingrich has already floated amnesty for some illegal immigrants and ending child labor laws.
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Did anyone read the Parade Magazine article today about Mitt? He's on the cover. The best parts are 1. How his grandchildren call him Ike and call his wife Mamie and 2. The guy who founded Staples talks about how Mitt inspires greatness-when they were opening the first store and Mitt came in and gave an inspirational speech and some of the employees were moved to tears.

It's probably on their web site if anyone actually wants to read it
Thank you, i just read it.

A Mitt Romney You Haven't Seen Yet | Parade.com

He's clearly the most qualified and best offering the republicans have to offer. Or, he's the only one of them that doesn't suck.
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oh look, Newt is on TV talking about "the Donald" who is a "genuine American icon" and that's why he's going on Republican Apprentice on December 27 so that Trump can hawk his book.

tell me, again, how this is a political party and not an entertainment franchise owned by Fox?
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n00t's running for president of white, rural America:
Funny, here's President Obama in 2010 reconnecting with his base of, "young people, African-Americans, Latinos, and women who powered our victory in 2008..."




No love for the bitter-clingers in white, rural America so why shouldn't Newt court them?
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tell me, again, how this is a political party and not an entertainment franchise owned by Fox?
Because Trump works for NBC and the debate will be on Ion Television
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Because Trump works for NBC and the debate will be on Ion Television
right wing news networks, all of them. ratings and money always win. that is the best business strategy.
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On Ion? Maybe Trump should just buy his own network. Guess he and Gingrich talked about being on their third marriages.

(Reuters) - Mitt Romney spent nearly $100,000 in state funds to replace computers in his office at the end of his term as governor of Massachusetts in 2007 as part of an unprecedented effort to keep his records secret, Reuters has learned.

The move during the final weeks of Romney's administration was legal but unusual for a departing governor, Massachusetts officials say.

The effort to purge the records was made a few months before Romney launched an unsuccessful campaign for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008. He is again competing for the party's nomination, this time to challenge Barack Obama for the presidency in 2012.

Five weeks before the first contests in Iowa, Romney has seen his position as frontrunner among Republican presidential candidates whittled away in the polls as rival Newt Gingrich, the former speaker of the House of Representatives, has gained ground.

When Romney left the governorship of Massachusetts, 11 of his aides bought the hard drives of their state-issued computers to keep for themselves. Also before he left office, the governor's staff had emails and other electronic communications by Romney's administration wiped from state servers, state officials say.

Those actions erased much of the internal documentation of Romney's four-year tenure as governor, which ended in January 2007. Precisely what information was erased is unclear.

Republican and Democratic opponents of Romney say the scrubbing of emails - and a claim by Romney that paper records of his governorship are not subject to public disclosure - hinder efforts to assess his performance as a politician and elected official.

As Massachusetts governor, Romney worked with a Democrat-led state house to close a budget shortfall and signed a healthcare overhaul that required nearly all state residents to buy insurance or face penalties.

Massachusetts' healthcare law became a model for Obama's nationwide healthcare program, enacted into law in 2010. As a presidential candidate, however, Romney has criticized Obama's plan as an overreach by the federal government.

Massachusetts officials say they have no basis to believe that Romney's staff violated any state laws or policies in removing his administration's records.

They acknowledge, however, that state law on maintaining and disclosing official records is vague and has not been updated to deal with issues related to digital records and other modern technology.

BUYING UP HARD DRIVES

Romney's spokesmen emphasize that he followed the law and precedent in deleting the emails, installing new computers in the governor's office and buying up hard drives.

However, Theresa Dolan, former director of administration for the governor's office, told Reuters that Romney's efforts to control or wipe out records from his governorship were unprecedented.

Dolan said that in her 23 years as an aide to successive governors "no one had ever inquired about, or expressed the desire" to purchase their computer hard drives before Romney's tenure.

The cleanup of records by Romney's staff before his term ended included spending $205,000 for a three-year lease on new computers for the governor's office, according to official documents and state officials.

In signing the lease, Romney aides broke an earlier three-year lease that provided the same number of computers for about half the cost - $108,000. Lease documents obtained by Reuters under the state's freedom of information law indicate that the broken lease still had 18 months to run.

As a result of the change in leases, the cost to the state for computers in the governor's office was an additional $97,000.

Andrea Saul, a spokeswoman for Romney's presidential campaign, referred questions on the computer leasing deal and records removal to state officials.

Last week, Saul claimed that Deval Patrick, the present Massachusetts governor and a Democrat, was encouraging reports about Romney's records to cast the former governor as secretive. Patrick's office has not responded to that allegation.

STATE REVIEWING RECORDS LAW

The removal of digital records by Romney's staff, first reported by the Boston Globe, has sparked a wave of requests for state officials to release paper records from Romney's governorship that remain in the state's archives.

Massachusetts officials are now reviewing state law to determine whether the public should have access to those records.

The issue is clouded by a 1997 state court ruling that could be interpreted to mean that records of the Massachusetts governor are not subject to disclosure. Romney has asserted that his records are exempt from disclosure.

State officials and a longtime Romney adviser have acknowledged that before leaving office, Romney asked state archives officials for permission to destroy certain paper records. It is unclear whether his office notified anyone from the state before destroying electronic records.

Officials have said the details of Romney's request to remove paper records, such as what specific documents he wanted to destroy, could be made public only in response to a request under the state's freedom of information law. Reuters has filed such a request.
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Gingrich: Comments on work ethic of poor were ‘distorted’
By Joshua Altman - 12/05/11 04:31 PM ET

GOP presidential frontrunner Newt Gingrich on Monday claimed that his recent comments about the work ethic of poor youth were being misrepresented by critics.

On Thursday, Gingrich, the former House speaker, had said that “really poor children” have bad work habits and no knowledge of how to make an income “unless it’s illegal.”

"I've been talking a little bit about the importance of work, particularly as it relates to people who are in areas where there are -- in public housing, et cetera, where there are relatively few people who go to work," explained Gingrich Monday.

"And this has been interestingly distorted by some people, who suggest that the working poor by definition know how to work, which is true. That's why they are called the working poor. I was talking about people who come out of areas and neighborhoods where they may not have that experience," he said.

Gingrich held his press conference shortly after meeting with real estate mogul Donald Trump. Gingrich said that he had discussed plans for an apprenticeship program for young people in New York with Trump.

Trump who has flirted with running for the GOP nomination himself has been a sought-after endorsement for the Republican field. He hosts a reality show on NBC, The Apprentice, where contestants vie to win a one-year job at one of his business ventures.

Gingrich's comments on the work habits of poor children attracted much criticism. Actress Eva Longoria, a prominent Obama supporter, blasted him on Twitter Saturday, writing, "@newtgingrich you clearly know little about the Latina community, Latina entrepreneurs who start businesses at 6 times the national average."
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Funny, here's President Obama in 2010 reconnecting with his base of, "young people, African-Americans, Latinos, and women who powered our victory in 2008..."




No love for the bitter-clingers in white, rural America so why shouldn't Newt court them?

where are the purple mountains majesty and amber waves of grain?

all i hear here are specifics and seriousness. where's the swelling music? the dewy images of a reimagined past that has been stolen away by the barbarians?
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Because Trump works for NBC and the debate will be on Ion Television

and it is about ratings, and this sure is one expensive Reality show.

fortunately, the candidates running to do more than get a chance to yell at Obama during a debate (hopefully with table flipping! prostitution whore!), somehow don't find Trump a credible political figure.



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By Geneva Sands-Sadowitz - 12/06/11 09:35 AM ET

Jon Huntsman dismissed the upcoming GOP debate moderated by real estate mogul Donald Trump as a "joke" on Tuesday.

"This is not about ratings for Donald Trump, this is about jobs for the American people. This is a serious debate that we ought to be having here in the United States," said Huntsman on NBC's "Today" show Tuesday. "I believe that the presidency of the United States of America is beyond reality shows … this is a joke."

The former Utah governor and the celebrity businessman have attacked one another though the media since Huntsman declined to participate in the debate.

Along with Huntsman, Republican contender Rep. Ron Paul (Texas) announced last week that they would not take part in the debate hosted by the conservative news outlet Newsmax.
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for Jon Huntsman. I think Trump said that he and Ron Paul are joke candidates. He's so mature.
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christ, what an asshole.

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AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry today issued the following statement:

“Just when you thought Barack Obama couldn’t get any more out of touch with America’s values, AP reports his administration wants to make foreign aid decisions based on gay rights.

“This administration’s war on traditional American values must stop.

“I have proposed a foreign aid budget that starts at zero. From that zero baseline, we will consider aid requests based solely on America’s national security interests. Promoting special rights for gays in foreign countries is not in America’s interests and not worth a dime of taxpayers’ money.

“But there is a troubling trend here beyond the national security nonsense inherent in this silly idea. This is just the most recent example of an administration at war with people of faith in this country. Investing tax dollars promoting a lifestyle many Americas of faith find so deeply objectionable is wrong.

“President Obama has again mistaken America’s tolerance for different lifestyles with an endorsement of those lifestyles. I will not make that mistake.”

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very sad that people who purport to be Christians think that living their faith means not just hating but actively working to harm people different from them in countries where being gay can get you imprisoned or murdered.

it's also another tool to use against Iran. this is smart power.

here's what the Obama administration said earlier:

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The struggle to end discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) persons is a global challenge, and one that is central to the United States commitment to promoting human rights. I am deeply concerned by the violence and discrimination targeting LGBT persons around the world -- whether it is passing laws that criminalize LGBT status, beating citizens simply for joining peaceful LGBT pride celebrations, or killing men, women, and children for their perceived sexual orientation. That is why I declared before heads of state gathered at the United Nations, "no country should deny people their rights because of who they love, which is why we must stand up for the rights of gays and lesbians everywhere." Under my Administration, agencies engaged abroad have already begun taking action to promote the fundamental human rights of LGBT persons everywhere. Our deep commitment to advancing the human rights of all people is strengthened when we as the United States bring our tools to bear to vigorously advance this goal.

By this memorandum I am directing all agencies engaged abroad to ensure that U.S. diplomacy and foreign assistance promote and protect the human rights of LGBT persons.

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He's right, you know. He won't. Because he won't be president.
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so much energy being wasted on people who have nothing to do with your life
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*woooossssshhhhhh*
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And the GOP applauds this type of assholery...
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