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Tough crowd.
Here's a public couple that confutes that tired old canard that pro-lifers care only about children before birth and yet it's still not good enough.
GOP Nominee 2012 - who will it be?
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Tough crowd.
Here's a public couple that confutes that tired old canard that pro-lifers care only about children before birth and yet it's still not good enough.
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Well, she was an American girl
INDY500
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And she won't back down.
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how does Ms. Bachman, admirable carer of unwanted children, feel about gay adoption or foster parenting?
someone's got to clean up after the heteros.
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BTW did anyone read this hit piece by Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone. Michele Bachmann's Holy War | Rolling Stone Politics
Easily on par with the best (or worst) that Limbaugh and company could produce from the Right. There's lots to criticize about Bachmann,and I suppose one can argue its an op-ed, but I just felt the tone was so obviously biased and inflammatory that it really turned me off. Anyone who takes that hyperbolic tone I automatically tend to discount. This is why I generally skip the political articles in RS (I know, INDY must be shocked).
Easily on par with the best (or worst) that Limbaugh and company could produce from the Right. There's lots to criticize about Bachmann,and I suppose one can argue its an op-ed, but I just felt the tone was so obviously biased and inflammatory that it really turned me off. Anyone who takes that hyperbolic tone I automatically tend to discount. This is why I generally skip the political articles in RS (I know, INDY must be shocked).
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I used to subscribe to Rolling Stone. 
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Bachmann's husband got $137,000 in Medicaid funds
By Michael Isikoff NBC News National Investigative Correspondent
While Rep. Michele Bachmann has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program for swelling the "welfare rolls," the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained by NBC News.
The previously unreported payments are on top of the $24,000 in federal and state funds that Bachmann & Associates, the clinic founded by Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist, received in recent years under a state grant to train its employees, state records show. The figures were provided to NBC News in response to a Freedom of Information request.
The clinic, based in Lake Elmo, Minn., describes itself on its website as offering "quality Christian counseling" for a large number of mental health problems ranging from "anger management" to addictions and eating disorders.
The $161,000 in payments from the Minnesota Department of Human Services to her husband's clinic appear to contradict some of Michelle Bachmann's public accounts this week when she was first asked about the extent to which her family has benefited from government aid. Contacted this afternoon, Alice Stewart, a spokeswoman for Bachmann, said the congresswoman was doing campaign events and was not immediately available for comment.
Questions about the Bachmann family's receipt of government funds arose this week after a Los Angeles Times story reported that a family farm in which Michelle Bachmann is a partner had received nearly $260,000 in federal farm subsidies.
When asked by anchor Chris Wallace on "Fox News Sunday" about the story's assertion that her husband's counseling clinic had also gotten federal and state funds, Bachmann replied that it was "one-time training money that came from the federal government. And it certainly didn't help our clinic."
At another point, she said, "My husband and I did not get the money," adding that it was "mental health training money that went to the employees."
Read more reporting by Michael Isikoff in 'The Isikoff Files'
But state records show that Bachmann & Associates has been collecting payments under the Minnesota's Medicaid program every year for the past six years. Karen Smigielski, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Human Services, said the state's Medicaid program is funded "about 50-50" with federal and state monies. The funds to Bachmann & Associates are for the treatment of low-income mentally ill patients and are based on a "fee for service" basis, meaning the clinic was reimbursed by Medicaid for the services it provided.
Smigielski added that these were not the only government funds that Bachmann & Associates has received. The clinic also participates in managed-care plans that are reimbursed under a separate state-funded Minnesota Health Care program. But the state does not have any records of payment information to the individual clinics that participate. (During her Fox News appearance, Bachmann was not asked about Medicaid payments, and she made no mention of them.)
Another state official, Patrice Vick, communications manager for the Human Services Department, said she was puzzled by Michelle Bachmann's assertion on the broadcast that the funds under the state grant went to employees. While the grant was to train employees to help them treat chemical dependency, the money did not go directly to those being trained, she said. "It went to the clinic," Vick said.
"The contract was with the clinic," Vick added later. But she had no immediate information about whether the clinic passed it along directly to the employes being trained or used it to cover its costs of training.
The issue of her receipt of government aid has gotten attention because Bachmann, a Tea Party favorite, has been a fierce critic of federal spending programs and has called for drastic cutbacks. This has especially been the case on health care, including the expansions of Medicaid called for under the new health care law.
When Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton signed an executive order earlier this year expanding the state's Medicaid program for more than 95,000 state residents, Bachmann was joined state Republican lawmakers in denouncing the move.
"Right now, Governor Dayton is wanting to commit Minnesota taxpayers to add even more welfare recipients on the welfare rolls at a very great cost," Bachmann said at a news conference in St. Paul in January.
"She's giving hypocrisy a bad name," said Ron Pollock, executive director of Families USA, a consumer health care advocacy group, when asked about the Medicaid payments to Bachmann & Associates. "It's clear when it feathers her nest she's happy for Medicaid expenditures. But people that really need it — folks with disabilities and seniors — she's turning their backs on them."
Rep. Michele Bachmann: She's had her share of government aid - latimes.com
By Michael Isikoff NBC News National Investigative Correspondent
While Rep. Michele Bachmann has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program for swelling the "welfare rolls," the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained by NBC News.
The previously unreported payments are on top of the $24,000 in federal and state funds that Bachmann & Associates, the clinic founded by Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist, received in recent years under a state grant to train its employees, state records show. The figures were provided to NBC News in response to a Freedom of Information request.
The clinic, based in Lake Elmo, Minn., describes itself on its website as offering "quality Christian counseling" for a large number of mental health problems ranging from "anger management" to addictions and eating disorders.
The $161,000 in payments from the Minnesota Department of Human Services to her husband's clinic appear to contradict some of Michelle Bachmann's public accounts this week when she was first asked about the extent to which her family has benefited from government aid. Contacted this afternoon, Alice Stewart, a spokeswoman for Bachmann, said the congresswoman was doing campaign events and was not immediately available for comment.
Questions about the Bachmann family's receipt of government funds arose this week after a Los Angeles Times story reported that a family farm in which Michelle Bachmann is a partner had received nearly $260,000 in federal farm subsidies.
When asked by anchor Chris Wallace on "Fox News Sunday" about the story's assertion that her husband's counseling clinic had also gotten federal and state funds, Bachmann replied that it was "one-time training money that came from the federal government. And it certainly didn't help our clinic."
At another point, she said, "My husband and I did not get the money," adding that it was "mental health training money that went to the employees."
Read more reporting by Michael Isikoff in 'The Isikoff Files'
But state records show that Bachmann & Associates has been collecting payments under the Minnesota's Medicaid program every year for the past six years. Karen Smigielski, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Human Services, said the state's Medicaid program is funded "about 50-50" with federal and state monies. The funds to Bachmann & Associates are for the treatment of low-income mentally ill patients and are based on a "fee for service" basis, meaning the clinic was reimbursed by Medicaid for the services it provided.
Smigielski added that these were not the only government funds that Bachmann & Associates has received. The clinic also participates in managed-care plans that are reimbursed under a separate state-funded Minnesota Health Care program. But the state does not have any records of payment information to the individual clinics that participate. (During her Fox News appearance, Bachmann was not asked about Medicaid payments, and she made no mention of them.)
Another state official, Patrice Vick, communications manager for the Human Services Department, said she was puzzled by Michelle Bachmann's assertion on the broadcast that the funds under the state grant went to employees. While the grant was to train employees to help them treat chemical dependency, the money did not go directly to those being trained, she said. "It went to the clinic," Vick said.
"The contract was with the clinic," Vick added later. But she had no immediate information about whether the clinic passed it along directly to the employes being trained or used it to cover its costs of training.
The issue of her receipt of government aid has gotten attention because Bachmann, a Tea Party favorite, has been a fierce critic of federal spending programs and has called for drastic cutbacks. This has especially been the case on health care, including the expansions of Medicaid called for under the new health care law.
When Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton signed an executive order earlier this year expanding the state's Medicaid program for more than 95,000 state residents, Bachmann was joined state Republican lawmakers in denouncing the move.
"Right now, Governor Dayton is wanting to commit Minnesota taxpayers to add even more welfare recipients on the welfare rolls at a very great cost," Bachmann said at a news conference in St. Paul in January.
"She's giving hypocrisy a bad name," said Ron Pollock, executive director of Families USA, a consumer health care advocacy group, when asked about the Medicaid payments to Bachmann & Associates. "It's clear when it feathers her nest she's happy for Medicaid expenditures. But people that really need it — folks with disabilities and seniors — she's turning their backs on them."
Rep. Michele Bachmann: She's had her share of government aid - latimes.com
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Hypocrite. Plain and simple.
He's obviously not any good either if he hasn't been able to help his own wife any.
He's obviously not any good either if he hasn't been able to help his own wife any.
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Isn't this just par for the course for many of the GOP candidates.
Subsidize oil companies, but not ethanol.
Support the troops, but fuck the veterans.
Use congressional healthcare benefits, but Americans should shop around and find their own.
Being a Libertarian who is against reproductive choice.
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I have been told by multiple people I work with at the factory that Palin makes Bachmann look good, so there's that.
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(Don't forget Brewer and Sharon Angle, too.)I think they both make the GOP look bad.
Which, I say reluctantly, is too bad. I'm sure there are rational but principled women in the party, but they don't seem to be rising to the top.
I don't know the specifics on Kay Bailey Hutchison, but I'm a little mystified why she was never more prominent in the party.
Earlier, I mentioned Amy Koch in Minnesota as a GOP up-and-comer, but our state budget impasse has turned into a worn-out "Don't tax the rich who are the job creators" argument by our state Republicans. She may be a hope still.
Hopefully, the GOP will stop picking female CEOs as default party women. Meg Whitman and Fiorina didn't work out so well.
Is there a GOP woman who could swoop in and get some serious traction?
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Condi Rice?
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She has really been out of the spotlight.
Anyone know anything more on her "relationship" status? When she was rumored to be the VP choice in 2008, lots of lesbian talk swirling.
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not much new other than Stanford
I'm not sure what the GOP would make of her at this point. She'd be quite a curve ball though.
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Bachman is much better than Palin, and she would get further.
These recent attacks on Bachman are really silly, if you look at the scope of them, they are small potatoes.
If Palin gets in the race, it will be better for Romney.
Palin's best choice, would be to play the role of power broker, take credit for whatever GOP successes there are in 2012. Like she did in 2010.
And then make a Senate run, she would easily win in AZ, or some other state.
Oh, and Condi Rice is a complete zero, in politics, everything that is wrong about Bush, she is right at the center - WMDs, 911, a complete failure.
These recent attacks on Bachman are really silly, if you look at the scope of them, they are small potatoes.
If Palin gets in the race, it will be better for Romney.
Palin's best choice, would be to play the role of power broker, take credit for whatever GOP successes there are in 2012. Like she did in 2010.
And then make a Senate run, she would easily win in AZ, or some other state.
Oh, and Condi Rice is a complete zero, in politics, everything that is wrong about Bush, she is right at the center - WMDs, 911, a complete failure.
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Bachmann's standing in the polls with Tea Party voters is certainly up lately. I don't get the sense she arouses quite as much personal animosity from her detractors as Palin does, possibly because she comes across as somewhat more of a true believer and somewhat less of a tacky celebrity-seeker, but it's a bit early in the game to draw hard-and-fast conclusions about that.
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Her true colors will come out. She is a true believer; of just what is where the fun will be.
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YouTube - Calling All Texans to Prayer!
Wait for it........
Wait for it.................
47 seconds in. Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha!!!
Also, the odd, the few, the rare insightful Youtube comment:
Wait for it........
Wait for it.................
47 seconds in. Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha!!!
Also, the odd, the few, the rare insightful Youtube comment:
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Don't be mean!!! Her husband is a lovely guy.Hypocrite. Plain and simple.
He's obviously not any good either if he hasn't been able to help his own wife any.
YouTube - Dr. Marcus Bachmann speaks about homosexuality
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It's looking more and more like it will be Perry/Bachmann 2012. Just wait.
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I know this is many a tea partier's wet dream, but besides the whisperings I haven't really seen any signs from Perry's camp.
If so this ticket will have an uphill battle. BOTH are stimulus hypocrites. One is a crook, and one is a loon.
Good luck GOP
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That scares me and sounds like all kinds of crazy. I think Michelle Bachmann would be the voice of reason and sanity there That would make me long for GWB 
That would make me long for GWB
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That scares me and sounds like all kinds of crazy. I think Michelle Bachmann would be the voice of reason and sanity there
Or at least Jeb Bush.
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longing for bush, passe'
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It's a wide open race now!
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To be fair, ethanol is a stopgap measure. As far as energy policy, it's like saying, "Hey, I got the car fixed but after six months the belts broke again."
I understand the sentiment, though.
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