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Old 09-13-2011, 09:05 AM   #981
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Let's just hope those that cheered let him die never have a situation where a loved one, or even themselves are tragically injured or sick where they have to choose between going broke to live, or if they stick to their tough person mentality of "fuck'em, this is America, Freedom baby!!!" and let the person die.
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I totally hope they do.
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Another gem from the debate (1:35):



Ron Paul booed by the dum dum audience for telling the truth about Islam and why September 11th happened.

God Help America.
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Small government is just a catch phrase for these folks, if they were serious about it then Reagan wouldn't be there revisionist hero and Paul would actually be the front runner.
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Ron Paul booed by the dum dum audience for telling the truth about Islam and why September 11th happened.

God Help America.


the good thing, though, is that no one except for maybe Gingrich has the stomach for crusading adventures in dry countries any more. that might be one good thing we can pull from the trainwreck of the W presidency. the Iraq war is over, Afghanistan is winding down, and the neocons lost.

i know some posters will be crushed that we're no longer willing to wholesale invade countries that displease us, but the rest of us are quite happy.
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But we have an approaching energy crisis. It would be more fiscally responsibly to blow the shit out of nations of brown people with oil than to invest in some green energy, right?
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But we have an approaching energy crisis. It would be more fiscally responsibly to blow the shit out of nations of brown people with oil than to invest in some green energy, right?

why would we invest in future technologies when the Gulf of Mexico and ANWAR are just sitting there and ready to be destroyed by oil spills?
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Even though I don't agree with much of Ron Paul's ideas, he is 100% correct in the reasoning behind the 9/11 attacks. We have pushed these people to the brink of war, and while there are probably a good number that would hate us if we didn't have these bases, or bombed their countries....we may have just dealt with smaller attacks abroad. Not flying planes into our buildings.

We really are just a spoiled, stuck up country. We can do no WRONG and to ever admit a wrong doing is a sign of weakness and unamerican. Remember that Reagan personally destroyed the soviet union, and eliminated taxes!!!!

I'm extremely concerned with where the country will be in four years, let alone the next election cycle has a very good chance of being one of the most digusting years in our history
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Wolf: "Are you saying society should just let him die?"

TeaBaggerSoCalledChristian: "Yeah!!!"


unless it's this person. then Congress will hold a special session to keep them alive:

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Ugly people on display.
It's not the "crowd" it's 2 or 3 (possibly drunk) Ron Paul groupies that shout out.

Did anyone care to discuss Ron Paul's answer? He's the one running for president.
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Did anyone care to discuss Ron Paul's answer? He's the one running for president.


i hear church is a great place to go for chemo or diabetes treatment.

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i hear church is a great place to go for chemo or diabetes treatment.
I guess not.
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What was the rest of his answer to "... do you just let him die?" There were the assholes cheering, and then he said "No ... I was a doctor something something Medicaid" and then it cut off.

This scenario could very easily be someone who didn't choose not to have health care, though. What if it's not "I don't want to spend $200 a month," it's "I can either have health insurance, or feed my kids."

Or what if someone can't get health insurance, because they have pre-existing conditions? And yes, one of the bits of health care reform that's a good thing is that it eliminates pre-existing condition clauses (but does not prevent the carrier from charging an exorbitant price for it, so ....). But the way this is all going, I don't have confidence that all the parts of health care reform that have been put into place will stay in place.

Would there still be people saying "let him die!" if someone couldn't afford it because there are no cost controls in place for the insurance companies? Or if someone had a massive stroke three days before their health insurance kicked in?
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I'm not even sure what was his answer. I'm not sure if he agreed with those guys in the crowd. I don't know that they're Ron Paul groupies either, as I'm not sure Ron Paul thinks they should have died.

He really sidestepped the question until the video cut off. Not sure what he said after that.
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I guess not.


here you go:

https://twitter.com/#!/RonPaul/statu...23706247802881

see, i actually did listen to Ron Paul's answer. did you?
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"No. I practiced medicine before we had Medicaid, in the early 1960s, when I got out of medical school. I practiced at Santa Rosa Hospital in San Antonio, and the churches took care of them. We never turned anybody away from the hospitals. And we've given up on this whole concept that we might take care of ourselves and assume responsibility for ourselves. Our neighbors, our friends, our churches would do it. This whole idea, that's the reason the cost is so high. The cost is so high because they dump it on the government, it becomes a bureaucracy. It becomes special interests. It kowtows to the insurance companies and the drug companies, and then on top of that, you have the inflation. The inflation devalues the dollar, we have lack of competition. There's no competition in medicine. Everybody is protected by licensing. And we should actually legalize alternative health care, allow people to practice what they want."
It still avoids the question, but that was his answer.
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Since he was a doctor I certainly hope he doesn't believe the hypothetical guy should die.

So let me get this straight..Obama wants death panels to decide who should live or die and that's all outrageous (even though it's inaccurate but hey he hates old people and let's scare the crap out of them) but it's ok to cheer for the hypothetical death of a hypothetically uninsured person?
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Michele Bachmann's HPV Vaccine Safety and 'Retardation' Comments Misleading, Doctors Say - ABC News
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How does Bachmann feel about the other required vaccinations? Did she raise holy hell about being ordered to have her kids vaccinated against those other things?

If not, then I'm inclined to believe those who say people are up in arms about the HPV vaccine because they think it will turn their daughters into sluts and whores who will rush out and have all the sex in the world.

Even though you can get HPV without having sex, but never mind those pesky details.
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Of course. In their minds, HPV vaccinations are up against abstinence only education.
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