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Old 05-15-2011, 07:36 AM   #321
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He is one of the few who I think truly believes what he believes. That's fucking scary.
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Old 05-15-2011, 07:39 AM   #322
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I'm very glad that Mike Huckabee decided not to run.
This way he gets to remain decent and honest and an all-around good guy.
He's only interested in Israel because he thinks the end of the world and return of Christ are going to kick off in your backyard. He is not interested in peace or your well being, but the opposite. He wants it to all go south as fast as possible. He wants war and death in Israel. Bring on the apocalypse! So as far as peace and prosperity for Israel go, he is your worst possible/nightmare candidate.
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Why do you think he's decent and honest?

He's been caught lying several times.

He lied ( on multiple occasions) about Obama growing up in Kenya and then lied when telling his cover up story.
He didn't lie about that - he explained that he mis-spoke and that he never claimed that Obama grew up in Kenya rather that he was born in Hawaii and raised in Indonesia, and the radio interview he gave in which he made this verbal gaffe was one of many he did that day which would result in a natural distortion and mistake - for which he took full responsibility.

Case in point, How many people (mostly newscasters) mixed up "Obama" and "Osama" when Bin laden was killed? No one accused them of wanting Obama dead, right? It was an honest mistake.

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He's now selling history lessons claiming to be bias free yet they drip with racism and bias.
Can you find me an example? I'd like to know more about this.

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he's a hypocrite and liar. Fox won't show you that, but it's pretty easy to see...
Well, so far it's not easy for ME to see. When I watch him on FOX he's always to the point and doesn't dodge any tough questions (that I've seen).

If I'm wrong, I would appreciate if you could show me some examples to the contrary.
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He's only interested in Israel because he thinks the end of the world and return of Christ are going to kick off in your backyard. He is not interested in peace or your well being, but the opposite. He wants it to all go south as fast as possible. He wants war and death in Israel. Bring on the apocalypse! So as far as peace and prosperity for Israel go, he is your worst possible/nightmare candidate.
Hi Earnie,

I didn't want to mention his pro-Israel stance because I didn't want it to seem like it was clouding my judgement of him (which it isn't).

Do you have any facts to back up your statements? I haven't seen any duplicitous(sp?) behavior on his part. All I've seen is a really kind person who speaks his mind and seems to really look out for Israel - just like Glenn Beck.

If I'm wrong, show me....
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Case in point, How many people (mostly newscasters) mixed up "Obama" and "Osama" when Bin laden was killed? No one accused them of wanting Obama dead, right? It was an honest mistake.
yeah, i hate it when i mis-speak and get someone's life history completely wrong. slip of the tongue, honest!
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He didn't lie about that - he explained that he mis-spoke and that he never claimed that Obama grew up in Kenya rather that he was born in Hawaii and raised in Indonesia, and the radio interview he gave in which he made this verbal gaffe was one of many he did that day which would result in a natural distortion and mistake - for which he took full responsibility.
He did it very purposefully. He did it several times and then even lied when making his "apology" he made some reference to his book saying that he admitted Obama wasn't born in Kenya, but that's not in his book. He's full of deception.



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I don't know, THIS kind of makes sense to me:
It's full of distortion. For example his example of the 70 year old hip replacement, that happens now under the current system. Private insurance make these decisions on a daily basis. He's just trying to scare you into thinking that's something new that's going to happen under Obamacare.




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Can you find me an example? I'd like to know more about this.
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He's scary because he seems so pleasant and reasonable when he speaks. You just want to pull up a chair and have a nice discussion with him.

And then you actually hear the words coming out of his mouth, and you realize he's just another one of the crazypants guys.
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Huckabee's a slime. A personable one, but still a slime.
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Republican Newt Gingrich told a Georgia audience on Friday evening that the 2012 presidential election is the most consequential since the 1860 race that elected Abraham Lincoln to the White House and was soon followed by the Civil War. Addressing the Georgia Republican Party's convention, Gingrich said the nation is at a crossroads and that the re-election of Democratic President Barack Obama would lead to four more years of "radical left-wing values" that would drive the nation to ruin.
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"We’re at the crossroads,” Gingrich said, repeatedly sniffling from allergies. “Down one road is a European centralized bureaucratic socialist welfare system in which politicians and bureaucrats define the future. Down the other road is a proud, solid, reaffirmation of American exceptionalism.”

...Gingrich sought to lay blame for the recession, as well as the economic and social upheaval in Detroit, on Obama and his policies. “President Obama is the most successful food stamp president in American history,” Gingrich said. “I would like to be the most successful paycheck president in American history.”
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“You know, folks often talk about immigration. I always say that to become an American citizen, immigrants ought to have to learn American history. But maybe we should also have a voting standard that says to vote, as a native born American, you should have to learn American history. You realize how many of our high school graduates because of the decay of the educational system, couldn’t pass a citizenship test.”


Yeah...no dog whistles there.
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Republican Newt Gingrich told a Georgia audience on Friday evening that the 2012 presidential election is the most consequential since the 1860 race that elected Abraham Lincoln to the White House and was soon followed by the Civil War. Addressing the Georgia Republican Party's convention, Gingrich said the nation is at a crossroads and that the re-election of Democratic President Barack Obama would lead to four more years of "radical left-wing values" that would drive the nation to ruin.


And so Gingrich will froth up the right-wing base, but ultimately won't get anywhere since even Republicans acknowledge he's an egotistical, petty ass.
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It's widely assumed in Indiana that their marital history, and more specifically her desire to keep it private, is his main point of hesitation over running. It shouldn't be an issue, by all rights it's wholly irrelevant and nobody's business, but unfortunately that's not how presidential campaigns work.
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she had an extended doctor's visit

she is now back home, happily married, where Jesus wants her to be.
One man, one woman, and not killing unborn babies.

no need to be perfect, just Jesus-forgiven.
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After the 2008 Messiahpalooza I guess I can't blame my liberal friends for being indifferent to the Republican search for a mortal political with executive experience.
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I don't know the Libertarian candidate yet, but right
now I like Herman Caine for the Republican choice.


Herman Cain - Presidential Exploratory Committee
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Yes, all liberals worship Rolling Stone! Great stuff as always, INDY.
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"It's a shame that young people don't get more involved in politics."

Young people go nuts for a candidate in 2008 and actually take an interest.

Mocked by the Right for getting involved in politics.

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After the 2008 Messiahpalooza I guess I can't blame my liberal friends for being indifferent to the Republican search for a mortal political with executive experience.


what did the Republicans do between 2001-2009 that makes you think they deserve to be anywhere near the White House?
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what did the Republicans do between 2001-2009 that makes you think they deserve to be anywhere near the White House?
They've kept you alive and safe and protected from another 911.....
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They've kept you alive and safe and protected from another 911.....
so you have proof that the republicans foiled a large-scale terrorist attempt, then? just because nothing happened didn't mean it wouldn't have been the same with a democratic president.
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so you have proof that the republicans foiled a large-scale terrorist attempt, then? just because nothing happened didn't mean it wouldn't have been the same with a democratic president.
If a democratic president had put into effect all the measures that GWB did, then yes....it would have been the same.
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