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Old 03-04-2009, 09:16 AM   #81
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So he dropped the economy and the towers? I guess he was only good at keeping one thing up.
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I think the mess W inherited had something to do with towers falling down.
I'm talking about the economy under Clinton and the SURPLUS W inherited. The largest federal surplus in American history, if memory serves right-maybe I'm wrong about that, you can Google it. It has zero to do with the towers. That's what I was talking about. Don't want to post my name but it's nice to meet you.
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So he dropped the economy and the towers? I guess he was only good at keeping one thing up.
What are you talking about? Who mentioned anything about him dropping the towers? The only point being made was that pre-9/11 the economy started to drop and Republicans often state that he inherited that from Clinton, and everything after that was 9/11's fault. This way Bush had no fault what so ever.

But the truth is the economy did start to drop during Clinton's watch but only while he was a lame duck president mostly after Bush was already elected. So folks like Diamond, can't have it both ways. Plus that drop was small and after a surplus, not a "crash" after years of defecit spending like Obama is inheriting...

Now post 9/11 is an entirely different story but even those within Bush's administration have admitted that encouraging people to go out and shop like nothing happened wasn't exactly the most sound economic advice.
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I was talking about the Towers because that's my biggest beef with Clinton. Inaction against threats during his time in office.

I don't want to post my name either but it's Wes. Nice to meet ya.
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I was talking about the Towers because that's my biggest beef with Clinton. Inaction against threats during his time in office.
Well that pretty much has nil to do with this thread...

And to be honest the inaction of both Clinton and Bush pre 9/11 has been talked to death.
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I don't want to post my name either but it's Wes. Nice to meet ya.
Nice to meet you as well, welcome to FYM...
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I was talking about the Towers because that's my biggest beef with Clinton. Inaction against threats during his time in office.
Except that at the end of Clinton's term his administration completed a report on aviation security suggesting the implementation of most of the safety measures in place today, and that report was summarily tossed by W's people. There's a strong chance that if the recommendations in the report had been followed, 9/11 may not have happened, or at least would have happened differently.

Perhaps your "beef" is misplaced?
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Except that at the end of Clinton's term his administration completed a report on aviation security suggesting the implementation of most of the safety measures in place today, and that report was summarily tossed by W's people. There's a strong chance that if the recommendations in the report had been followed, 9/11 may not have happened.

Perhaps your "beef" is misplaced?
Most of my beef comes from not pressing offensive action against Al Quaida during their attacks in the 90's. My beef is better than Arby's. Wait, that's not saying much.

I still have a valid point.
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You can't possibly be serious. How does President Obama stack up to Rush, since Rush is now the leader of the Republican Party?
MrsS, you are an eloquent and bright woman who is simply not dealing with a person that operates on the same level of discourse. It's easier to just not bother.
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I still have a valid point.
Good for you. Start a new thread about it then....
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My beef is better than Arby's.



I remember back in the 90's when the repubicans were obsessing about Monica, and every time Clinton tried to bomb terrorists, they claimed he was just trying to distract the public (wag the dog?).

Poor Bill could do no right back in the 90's. If he bombed Al Quaida, the republicans had a problem with it. If he didn't bomb Al Quaida, the republicans had a problem with it.

It all convinced me that the actual problem was the "D" after his name. Which seems to be the same problem Obama has.

Eeek, I'm threadjacking, aren't I? Sorry, I'll stop.
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Good for you. Start a new thread about it then....
Go fuck yourself.
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^ nice.

yet another sterling representation of the quality of thought on the Right.
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you are an eloquent and bright woman
Don't think so, definitely not.. but thank you all the same-right back at you I'm a masochist though, what other excuses can I offer?

As for what's going on here now-geesh, I thought I had it bad
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OMG! Dick Cheney is here on our very forum!!!
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Go fuck yourself.
Looks like you've been around Interference plenty long enough to know that was well over the line.

Also looks like this thread has veered pretty far off the topic (role of tax policy in the economic recovery plan). Let's keep any further discussion focused on that point please, otherwise there's little reason to keep this one open.
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so glad obama is now our president so he can lead us down the right path. hate to see what this country is going to look like in two years.
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Anyway, it's in my best interest that Obama's policies succeed, however I don't see it happening.

When Reagan came to office he was handed a crap economy by Carter and he fixed it.
When Clinton came to office he listened to Republicans, co-opted with them and he fixed the economy.

GW fixed the economy when it was handed off by Clinton in not the best shape.

During the end of GWs tenure the economy faltered. Instead of discipline that is now needed and tax cuts; we've spent trillions in new promises that can not be sustained and Obama has not listened to Republicans-and because of that the stock market continues to dive.

A better anaolgy is:

In regards to the economy, we were ankle deep in sh*t when Obama won the election. With this new debt and unsustainable promises we are now in chest deep sh*t-thanks to Senator O-no.

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Anyway, it's in my best interest that Obama's policies succeed, however I don't see it happening.

When Reagan came to office he was handed a crap economy by Carter and he fixed it.
When Clinton came to office he listened to Republicans, co-opted with them and he fixed the economy.

GW fixed the economy when it was handed off by Clinton in not the best shape.

During the end of GWs tenure the economy faltered. Instead of discipline that is now needed and tax cuts; we've spent trillions in new promises that can not be sustained and Obama has not listened to Republicans-and because of that the stock market continues to dive.

A better anaolgy is:

In regards to the economy, we were ankle deep in sh*t when Obama won the election. With this new debt and unsustainable promises we are now in chest deep sh*t-thanks to Senator O-no.

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This post makes no sense. You say that Clinton fixed the economy because of the Republicans and then handed a shaky economy off to GW that he had to fix. Either the Republicans helped Clinton or they made the economy shaky.
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