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Old 07-22-2009, 01:50 PM   #721
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Lou Dobbs has jumped on the lunacy bandwagon, too. Please FOX, find a spot for him and hire him?
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:16 PM   #722
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These people are total nutbags. Even arch-conservative nutbag Michael Medved has had enough apparently, so that's all you need to know.

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Never thought I'd read something rational from him.
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Rahm Emmanuel said that the administration "rescued the economy". Now that's a "Mission Accomlished" moment if ever there was one, but I doubt we'll hear too much criticism of it in the media. It's really a shame.
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Old 07-22-2009, 03:47 PM   #724
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Rahm Emmanuel said that the administration "rescued the economy". Now that's a "Mission Accomlished" moment if ever there was one, but I doubt we'll hear too much criticism of it in the media. It's really a shame.
Link please?

Rescued doesn't = cured, so it's not quite a Mission Accomplished banner.
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Old 07-22-2009, 04:26 PM   #725
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I am sure the Sunnis and Al-Queda had a big laugh at the "Mission Accomplished" statement



No reason we should deny Boehner, Rush and Hannity their big laugh at the 'Rescued Economy' statement.
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I am sure the Sunnis and Al-Queda had a big laugh at the "Mission Accomplished" statement

Not as big of a laugh as the Dems, but I think that mission was removing Saddam from power, and yeah it was accomplished at the time. Rather quickly.
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Not as big of a laugh as the Dems, but I think that mission was removing Saddam from power, and yeah it was accomplished at the time. Rather quickly.
It's not as if defeating a woefully outmanned/gunned/supplied/prepared army and removing it's head from power was a particularly difficult task.
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Senator: Half our opposition to health care is just plain politics

Half the Republicans' opposition to a public health care option comes not from policy differences with the Democrats, or fundamental philosophical differences about the role of government, but purely from a desire to score political points against President Barack Obama, a senior Republican senator has admitted.

George Voinovich (R-OH) said on CNBC Wednesday that a desire to prevent the Democratic president from scoring a historical victory with a public health plan accounts for at least 50 percent of the GOP opposition to the plan.

Squawk Box host Carl Quintanilla asked the senator: "How much of this disagreement with the administration is about the policy of health care and how to fix it, and how much of it is Republicans' ... desire to declaw the president politically?"

To which Voinovich responded: "I think it's probably 50-50."
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to honest politicians.
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It's not as if defeating a woefully outmanned/gunned/supplied/prepared army and removing it's head from power was a particularly difficult task.

Well they used to be the 4th largest in the world, we didn't seem to struggle then either.
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So violent
Yeah, but no gun.
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It's not as if defeating a woefully outmanned/gunned/supplied/prepared army and removing it's head from power was a particularly difficult task.

Just a reminder of what Saddam had prior to the invasion:

Active Military: 420,000
Tanks: 2,800+
Armored Personal Carriers: 2,000+
Artillery: 2,000+
Combat Aircraft: 300+

One of the 10 largest military forces on the planet in March 2003.

The coalition invasion force was outnumbered in troops, tanks, armored vehicles, and artillery.

Invading a country the size of Iraq is an incredibly difficult task. As defenders, Saddams military had the huge advantage of fighting on their own territory. Dislodging defenders from positions within cities can be very difficult.

Iran tried to remove Saddam for 8 years and failed.

Success was do to the quality of US, UK, and Australian military forces, NOT to the misperception that Saddam's military was "woefully outmanned/gunned/supplied/prepared army" .
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Success was do to the quality of US, UK, and Canadian military forces, NOT to the misperception that Saddam's military was "woefully outmanned/gunned/supplied/prepared army" .
The Canadian military did not participate in this illegal and illegitimate war, for the record.


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Success was do to the quality of US, UK, and Australian military forces, NOT to the misperception that Saddam's military was "woefully outmanned/gunned/supplied/prepared army" .

That's better.
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The Canadian military did not participate in this illegal and illegitimate war, for the record.
Sorry for mistaking the Australians as Canadians.

It was a small number of Australians, less than a brigade, that helped the main invasion force of the United States and United Kingdom consisting of 14 combat brigades legally invade and occupy Iraq in a war that was a necessity and was fought, both in the invasion and occupation phases, under the authorization of the United Nations Security Council.
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Old 07-28-2009, 02:04 PM   #739
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The "Birthers" will never let it go. Seriously, at least Obama was rightfully elected unlike the shrub.
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Either the 'live birth' certificate exist
or we have a President that 'officially' has not met the Constitutional requirements.


The best thing to do would be to get this to the Supreme Court and have it decided once and forever.











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