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Old 05-30-2009, 08:46 PM   #501
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It was very important that the American people knew that their President was doing everything possible to end the War.
That he had a personal stake in the duration, that each day the War went on, he was paying a price, too.
Such a personal toll the not playing golf must have taken on him. Absolutely tragic.

I cannot even fathom the thought process that went into that decision. For fuck's sake, what an insult to the families that lost loved ones in the war.

Now I'm all riled up, and I need to take deep cleansing breaths and remind myself that he's gone now.
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Um, that entire snippet from Olbermann you posted states the contrary. The problem he had was not with the golf playing, it was with the ridiculous gesture Bush was making by not playing golf, in some bizarre, twisted show of sympathy. As though not playing golf is going to ease the pain of parents whose children were killed in the war. Please.
How about Olbermann's Feb '08 Special Comment about telecom immunity?

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"If you believe in the seamless mutuality of government and big business, come out and say it. There is a dictionary definition. One word that describes that toxic blend - you're a fascist! Get them to print you a T-shirt with fascist on it."
What are the odds we get a Special Comment Monday when the government and General Motors toxically blend? Was "dictionary fascism" on Keith's lips when the federal government seamlessly took control in several of the nations largest banks earlier this year?

Or for that matter, was there a call for Senator Obama to wear a printed T-shirt with fascist on it
when he voted FOR the FISA bill with immunity as a senator or since then, as now president, made no gesture to change or repeal the law?
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How about Olbermann's Feb '08 Special Comment about telecom immunity?



What are the odds we get a Special Comment Monday when the government and General Motors join together in that toxic blend? Was "dictionary fascism" on Keith's lips when the federal government seamlessly took control in several of the nations largest banks?

Or for that matter, was there a call for Senator Obama to wear a printed fascist t-shirt when he voted for the FISA bill with immunity as a senator or since then, as now president, made no gesture to change or repeal the law?
I was talking about the one issue. I stated in my first post that I'm no fan of Olbermann, I find him shrill and obnoxious, the flip side of O'Reilly and Limbaugh.

Nice try at deflecting from Bush's stupid-ass golf self-punishment, though.
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I'm talking about the double standard. If you find him obnoxious and the flip side of Rush Limbaugh then we agree about something.

Both these Special Comments were discussed on earlier threads with the general consensus that "Keith nailed it." No doubt with extra points for calling Bush a fascist and to "shut the hell up." But then they probably operate under the same double standard and in the same bubble as Keith.

Sorry to get you all riled up.
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I'm talking about the double standard. If you find him obnoxious and the flip side of Rush Limbaugh then we agree about something.

Both these Special Comments were discussed on earlier threads with the general consensus that "Keith nailed it." No doubt with extra points for calling Bush a fascist and to "shut the hell up." But then they probably operate under the same double standard and in the same bubble as Keith.

Sorry to get you all riled up.
I don't like sensationalistic media from either end of the political spectrum. It's very undignified and chock full of bias. I prefer to get my news from less shouty sources. I recall that while there were some Olbermann defenders on here, there were also quite a few liberals who feel pretty much the same way I do about him.

You didn't rile me up, it was your buddy Bush. I know there's no chance we'll ever agree on anything politically, but I just find it astonishing that anyone could defend Bush's exercise in golf deprivation. It may have been well intentioned, but it was seriously plain dumb and insulting.
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You obviously have no appreciation for the game.
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You obviously have no appreciation for the game.
Hey, once every 5 years or so I go to a driving range, get a bucket of balls, come to the conclusion that I suck at golf the game is stupid, and don't bother again for another 5 years.
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I don't like sensationalistic media from either end of the political spectrum. It's very undignified and chock full of bias. I prefer to get my news from less shouty sources. I recall that while there were some Olbermann defenders on here, there were also quite a few liberals who feel pretty much the same way I do about him.
I can no longer watch Hannity for this reason. Obama Derangement Syndrome. My beef is with the "enchantment" others in the press have with the president.
I'm glad Obama enjoyed a day out on Memorial Day after his official duties. I obviously love the weekend. I choose to pay homage to our brave soldiers and then watch brave men and women in the Greatest Spectacle In Racing.

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You didn't rile me up, it was your buddy Bush. I know there's no chance we'll ever agree on anything politically, but I just find it astonishing that anyone could defend Bush's exercise in golf deprivation. It may have been well intentioned, but it was seriously plain dumb and insulting.
I defend Bush's choice to spend his leisure time, however that might be defined for the leader of the free world, as he chose. Without the snipping that came no matter what that choice.
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I think this may be one of the silliest things I've read in awhile...
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may have been well intentioned, but it was seriously plain dumb and insulting.
that sentence reads a bit like "George W. Bush - The Eulogy"
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In Turnaround, Cuba Agrees to Talks With U.S.

By Mary Beth Sheridan
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Sunday, May 31, 2009; 12:44 PM

Cuba has agreed to open talks with the United States on issues ranging from immigration to anti-narcotics cooperation and direct mail service , a senior State Department official said today, in a sign that the island's communist government is warming to President Obama's call for a new relationship after decades of tension.

The breakthrough came shortly before Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton left on a trip to Latin America, where she is expected to face pressure to make further gestures to Cuba, including allowing it into the Organization of American States.

A senior State Department official, briefing reporters on the condition of anonymity, called the Cuban moves "a very positive development" and added: "It's our hope this will be understood in the region in a positive way."

In an initial bid to launch a new relationship with Cuba, President Obama last month scrapped restrictions on Cuban Americans traveling to the island and sending money there. But he has said the United States will not lift its economic embargo until the government of Raul Castro improves its human-rights record and makes democratic reforms.
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Mitt Romney raps Barack Obama’s speechmaking style overseas
By Associated Press | Wednesday, June 3, 2009

WASHINGTON — Former Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Wednesday accused President Barack Obama of failing to sufficiently highlight America’s strengths in his travels and speeches around the world.

In an interview as Obama was flying to Saudi Arabia at the start of a Mideast trip, Romney said there’s nothing wrong with "showing our respect for the people in the world of Islam." But he also said he believes Obama was too apologetic about this country’s mistakes during a speech in France earlier this year.

Interviewed from Boston on NBC’s "Today" show as Obama set out on a tour that will include a speech in Egypt on U.S. relations with the Islamic world, Romney said that "of course, America makes mistakes." But he also said considers it inappropriate to "go around the world apologizing."

Romney, who unsuccessfully sought the Republican presidential nomination last year, said Obama should talk more about the sacrifices the United States has made on other nations’ behalf, such as during World War II, "what we have done in blood and sacrifice."

"I think it’s appropriate for him to describe the greatness of America," Romney said of Obama.

On another matter, he said moving General Motors Corp. into a bankruptcy and restructuring was "the right course," but said it should have been done sooner.

He called the federal investment in GM "really money down the drain. .... The government should get out right now."

"Look, I don’t want the Sierra Club telling General Motors what kind of cars they should build," Romney said.

Asked if he was already, in effect, running for the GOP presidential nod in 2012, Romney replied, "No, I’m looking right now at trying to get some Republicans getting elected in 2009 and 2010."

"And what happens later, ... that’s a very distant horizon."
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So which one is it, Republicans, is Obama too arrogant or too humble, make up your minds...
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Uhoh..I can imagine the Fox (and friends) freakouts over this

KING ABDULLAH: (As translated.) I thank you, Mr. President, for the kind words and the kind sentiments expressed within them. I am not surprised, given the historic and strategic ties between our two countries, I believe that go back to the time of the meeting between the late Franklin Delano Roosevelt and the late King Abdul-Aziz.

I also want to express my best wishes to the friendly American people who are represented by a distinguished man who deserves to be in this position.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Shukran.

Update: 10:17 a.m. ET: "Shukran" means "thank you" in Arabic, Mont Mensoor, a teacher of the language at Washington, D.C.'s Berlitz Center, tells the Oval. The late King Abdul-Aziz was King Abdullah's father and the founder of Saudi Arabia.
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I also want to express my best wishes to the friendly American people who are represented by a distinguished man who deserves to be in this position.

"a distinguished man who deserves to be in this position."


as opposed to who? or whom? that did not deserve to be in that position?
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The one that came in second.
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"We are 94 million miles from the sun, and are in-between the sun and moon,
and the eagle that flies between them and it's a giant step for mankind. ...
I have traveled thousands of miles to be here and know things that are going to happen. ...
the banking system will fail and people will die. ... there will be chaos in the world,"
"We are on a mission to kill the president of the United States,"
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the guy had sufficient financing,
weapons, understanding of astrophysics, international financing, and a partial recall of Stephen Stills lyrics - a little scary

Christ, I thought Joe Biden was the best insurance policy Obama could have.
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