Global Pandemic Part IV: IV Experimental Cocktails

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Could not see that coming....

And Chicago issues stay at home order effective Monday.

Only leave home for essentials. Stating thanksgiving plans should only include members of immediate household.



Strange that they ended the whole cruise over one positive case.

Not that that’s not the right thing to do... of course it is. But surely they knew the odds of not having one case if they promised testing was very low
 
Given how things are going there may be like 17 COVID-free people in the US by the time the vaccine is ready for deployment.
 
It’s up to five people now

I get that there is a spectrum of risk that different people are willing to take, but for the love of God who feels a desperate need to go on a cruise now? During the best of times they are floating cesspools. And even if you think your odds are low, why on earth would you want to risk possibly being quarantined in a room of like 175 square feet?
 
cruises aren't that far off from casinos, in that both industries live and die on the customers who come over and over.

my parents have friends who don't go on any vacation that isn't a cruise, and go multiple times a year without fail because they LOVE cruises. they're just random middle class people from suburban canada. i'm sure the cruise lines had no problem filling up this ship or any other future ships with folks like my parents' friends, no matter how many people get sick.
 
Some of the numbers are mind boggling. 1 in 82 people in North Dakota has tested positive in the last 7 days. 7 days!
 
cruises aren't that far off from casinos, in that both industries live and die on the customers who come over and over.

my parents have friends who don't go on any vacation that isn't a cruise, and go multiple times a year without fail because they LOVE cruises. they're just random middle class people from suburban canada. i'm sure the cruise lines had no problem filling up this ship or any other future ships with folks like my parents' friends, no matter how many people get sick.

Yep.
I have an aunt & uncle who live in Miami who go on several cruises a year. They are in one of these last minute groups that the cruise line contacts when they have unsold cabins and they can go for dirt cheap. Being retired and living in the city that many depart from (and close enough to Fort Lauderdale where many others depart from) they take advantage of this often.
But they also cruise other areas of the world, have probably done basically every cruise route there is over the years.
But they are currently waiting for the 'rona to get under control before going on their next trip.
 
I wonder if we will see a 100k case record on Tuesday when the various states provide updates on the weekend testing.

20 days later and I'm wondering if we will see a 200k case record this Tuesday.
 
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Just saw this.

Excellent news.
Yea so we'll have two vaccines with great effectiveness rolling out over the few months that will help vaccinate first responders, medical workers and the most at risk - and while that's happening hopefully we see some of the vaccines that are easier to distribute start to roll off the lines with a similar effectiveness.

Say that vaccine that can be sprayed up the nose comes in it in February. Conceivably your first responders and most at risk are already vaccinated (or at least well on the way towards that) which means that these second waves of vaccines can move more towards the average schmo.

And inevitably someone will come in and tell me that we're going to be staying at home until 2060 but I will not let you dampen my enthusiasm.
 
I think if the other vaccines have similar effectiveness, we could be back to some semblance of normal by about June or so.
Still a ways off, but certainly a light at the end of a long dark tunnel.
 
I think if the other vaccines have similar effectiveness, we could be back to some semblance of normal by about June or so.
Still a ways off, but certainly a light at the end of a long dark tunnel.

I think so too.

The goal is really to get as many people vaccinated (particularly those in colder climates) by September to avoid yet another cold/flu season + COVID.
 
Better data on the moderna but either way to have two safe and effective vaccines ready to go out is amazing. I really didn’t believe it would happen so soon.

I’m still a little doubtful on the 90%+ rate but even if it comes down a little this is better than nothing.

Unfortunately the Trump admin are going to fuck it all up as badly as they can for Biden team. Whatever the forecasts are for rolling out I’d probably push it back a few months.

But this is best news on covid since it began
 
So...Ashley has been symptomatic with covid for 14 days now and tested positive 5 days ago. She's had a lingering cough, fatigue, shortness of breath and loss of smell but is slowly coming back around. I'm certain she's going to be fine at this point but she's just getting annoyed by how long it's taking. Overall though she's in good spirits and intends to work from home today as usual. Our daughter seems fine.

I'm worried for myself though, maybe for no reason? I have had bouts of runny nose and congestion last weekend and the weekend before that, with lessened lung capacity and one night of gastrointestinal stuff but have tested negative twice in that time. We weren't distanced at all in the 9 days before she tested positive, just went about life like nothing was wrong.

The scary possibility is, of course, that any day now the virus is going to sneak up on me. Part of me wished for a positive test this morning so I could stop thinking about it. But the nurse who gave me the last test said I should go in to check for antibodies on Thursday if I'm asymptomatic. The thought from my doctor's office is that it's possibly a mild case that's been cleared out to the point that it's not showing up. My best guess is that Ashley was exposed 18 days ago, meaning I've been in close quarters with the virus for just as long. So I guess we'll see what the antibody test says.
 
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So...Ashley has been symptomatic with covid for 14 days now and tested positive 5 days ago. She's had a lingering cough, fatigue, shortness of breath and loss of smell but is slowly coming back around. I'm certain she's going to be fine at this point but she's just getting annoyed by how long it's taking. Overall though she's in good spirits and intends to work from home today as usual. Our daughter seems fine.

I'm worried for myself though, maybe for no reason? I have had bouts of runny nose and congestion last weekend and the weekend before that, with lessened lung capacity and one night of gastrointestinal stuff but have tested negative twice in that time. We weren't distanced at all in the 9 days before she tested positive, just went about life like nothing was wrong.

The scary possibility is, of course, that any day now the virus is going to sneak up on me. Part of me wished for a positive test this morning so I could stop thinking about it. But the nurse who gave me the last test said I should go in to check for antibodies on Thursday if I'm asymptomatic. The thought from my doctor's office is that it's possibly a mild case that's been cleared out to the point that it's not showing up. My best guess is that Ashley was exposed 18 days ago, meaning I've been in close quarters with the virus for just as long. So I guess we'll see what the antibody test says.

Glad to hear Ashley is recovering. I hope that you just had a mild case and didn't even know it.
 
So...Ashley has been symptomatic with covid for 14 days now and tested positive 5 days ago. She's had a lingering cough, fatigue, shortness of breath and loss of smell but is slowly coming back around. I'm certain she's going to be fine at this point but she's just getting annoyed by how long it's taking. Overall though she's in good spirits and intends to work from home today as usual. Our daughter seems fine.

I'm worried for myself though, maybe for no reason? I have had bouts of runny nose and congestion last weekend and the weekend before that, with lessened lung capacity and one night of gastrointestinal stuff but have tested negative twice in that time. We weren't distanced at all in the 9 days before she tested positive, just went about life like nothing was wrong.

The scary possibility is, of course, that any day now the virus is going to sneak up on me. Part of me wished for a positive test this morning so I could stop thinking about it. But the nurse who gave me the last test said I should go in to check for antibodies on Thursday if I'm asymptomatic. The thought from my doctor's office is that it's possibly a mild case that's been cleared out to the point that it's not showing up. My best guess is that Ashley was exposed 18 days ago, meaning I've been in close quarters with the virus for just as long. So I guess we'll see what the antibody test says.

Hope Ashley is back to 100% quickly and both of you remain well. And of course Steph stays well.
 
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