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Old 05-05-2020, 09:32 PM   #861
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At the risk of sounding like I know what I’m talking about when I know very little about this sort of thing, given our general tendency to brand things whilst knowing that coronaviruses are actually pretty common as a viral family (one of many common-cold viruses), gotta start to wonder if the rapid proliferation of testing as an emergency response has left the tests vulnerable to accidentally testing other coronaviruses as positives. Same can be said for antibody teats.

Wish we had a resident immunologist here
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Old 05-05-2020, 10:10 PM   #862
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Global Pandemic Part II: Sequel Escalation

I was one until I became a corporate lawyer.

The answer is that no, you are not getting false positives (at least not in the manner you were wondering about) because the test kits are running RT-PCR of a gene encoding a nucleocapsid protein which has been fully sequenced and for which studies exist in not just strains of human coronavirus but coronavirus of a number of animal species. The gene has shown itself to be essentially fully distinct (and is how we know that the origin of this novel coronavirus was bats).

ETA - the antibody test would be done totally differently (ELISA) and I haven’t really looked into it much to see what they are analyzing at the moment.
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Would you look at that. We do have a resident immunologist. Thank you!

Certainly my worries were more with the antibody tests, mostly because those can give a false sense of security.
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Guess some states thought this meant we have to accelerate opening back up ?
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At the risk of sounding like I know what I’m talking about when I know very little about this sort of thing, given our general tendency to brand things whilst knowing that coronaviruses are actually pretty common as a viral family (one of many common-cold viruses), gotta start to wonder if the rapid proliferation of testing as an emergency response has left the tests vulnerable to accidentally testing other coronaviruses as positives. Same can be said for antibody teats.

Wish we had a resident immunologist here
The German study in Heinsberg I posted about came under some criticism for claiming that the antibody test they used to determine how many people had already been through the infection had a 99% success rate in differentiating Covid-19 from other Coronaviruses (based on claims by the manufacturer). Other researchers said they don't believe any test at the time of the study had more than 70% precision. Unfortunately, with the speed of developments and the news cycle, I didn't yet see any follow-up on that. But the first manuscript of the Heinsberg study was released two days ago, so maybe I'll find an update on that.
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Guess Trump has given up against the “invisible” enemy.

It’ll be interesting and horrifying to watch he and his team try to paint a completely different reality. They’ll claim the economy is great, but it’ll be in shambles.

His hope is that the stock market can continue its climb again and use that as proof the economy is back.
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The stock market hates uncertainty.

If everything re-opens and the number of cases and deaths skyrockets, it will be up to governors to manage the situation and there will be a total quagmire.

It’s also impossible to reopen fully while the rest of the world is following a different path. What country will want American tourists or businessmen traveling there? What international tourists will want to go to the US? There will be further supply chain disruptions globally as well.
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Has Jared succeeded at anything ?? Is Donald putting him in charge to deflect blame in the long run (i trusted Jared. I was wrong. Sad )
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Has Jared succeeded at anything ??
He certainly way outkicked his coverage in terms of a spouse, so there's that.
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He's not the pedo subway Jared. So kudos to him for that.
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I guess Ivanka was too busy creating 400 million new jobs.
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He certainly way outkicked his coverage in terms of a spouse, so there's that.
he really didn't. she's just as much of a trashy and vile and ugly person as he is.
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he really didn't. she's just as much of a trashy and vile and ugly person as he is.
On the inside for sure, but on the outside (which is all that matters in Trumpworld) she is way out of his pencil necked league.
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On the inside for sure, but on the outside (which is all that matters in Trumpworld) she is way out of his pencil necked league.
He just hasn't had enough plastic surgery yet - we don't know his full potential yet.
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He just hasn't had enough plastic surgery yet - we don't know his full potential yet.
True, he could be the next Barry Manilow.
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For a little perspective.

"We don't have soap but we still wash our hands well." That one child is worth 100 of those idiot protesters.
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The next Trump / GOP pivot is to claim the death toll is fake news. It’s over reported. Not as bad as it seems.
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