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Old 03-24-2020, 11:13 AM   #741
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Come on grandma, mom and dad, take one for my 401k


https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/s...129346050?s=21
Fuck you Dan Patrick. This is Trump's attitude too, after yesterday I believe that. Death panels!
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:07 PM   #742
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The whole notion is very sickening, and it's particularly troublesome to see some Democrats echoing the rhetoric. Cuomo in particular had the line about "pivoting back to economic functionality," which is very worrying.

To get past this, we need to say "Fuck the market" for the next 4-6 months and just worry about meeting people's needs. Give everyone the money they need, suspend rents/mortgages/et al. to make this all work. We can do it. It's just a matter of willingness from those in power at this point. And our leadership nearly across the board has so far been unwilling to go there.
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:09 PM   #743
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I think someone pointed out that something like a third of Americans have some sort of underlying condition.

It's not just the elderly, it's anyone with Cancer, hypertension, diabetes etc all are more at risk, many people that are part of the economy and you may not realise have a condition that makes them more at risk.
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I think someone pointed out that something like a third of Americans have some sort of underlying condition.



It's not just the elderly, it's anyone with Cancer, hypertension, diabetes etc all are more at risk, many people that are part of the economy and you may not realise have a condition that makes them more at risk.
And there are probably people out there that have a condition and don't even know it yet.
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:33 PM   #746
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And there are probably people out there that have a condition and don't even know it yet.
Diabetes is the scary one - mortality rate is very high and there are probably tens of thousands of overweight and obese Americans walking around with Type 2 diabetes undiagnosed.

One of my closest friends has a daughter with serious medical issues. She's 5 years old and has no colon and only a few cm of her small bowel. She lost them in the days after she was born when she contracted necrotizing enterocolitis (basically flesh eating bacteria of the bowels). She is fed totally intravenously and any type of infection could put her life in danger, even a simple cold because the IV nutrition she receives can have severe side effects on the liver and other organs, especially if you are on it for years. Otherwise she looks and acts like a typical 5-year-old - she is super smart and you likely wouldn't know there is anything "wrong" with her except that she has to be hooked up to her lines 14 hrs a day.

So those are the people we are willing to sacrifice to the economy?

And this from the "pro-life" party. What a joke.
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Diabetes is the scary one - mortality rate is very high and there are probably tens of thousands of overweight and obese Americans walking around with Type 2 diabetes undiagnosed.



One of my closest friends has a daughter with serious medical issues. She's 5 years old and has no colon and only a few cm of her small bowel. She lost them in the days after she was born when she contracted necrotizing enterocolitis (basically flesh eating bacteria of the bowels). She is fed totally intravenously and any type of infection could put her life in danger, even a simple cold because the IV nutrition she receives can have severe side effects on the liver and other organs, especially if you are on it for years. Otherwise she looks and acts like a typical 5-year-old - she is super smart and you likely wouldn't know there is anything "wrong" with her except that she has to be hooked up to her lines 14 hrs a day.



So those are the people we are willing to sacrifice to the economy?



And this from the "pro-life" party. What a joke.
That's so freaking scary. Lupus is one as well. My ex wife and my daughter's mother has lupus bit it went undiagnosed for many years. And she's still expected to go in the office. But I'm sure there are also thousands of people who have lupus and just don't know it yet.
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Continued well wishes for your Aunt and Uncle.



Just listening to Last Word w Lawrence O'Donnell/MSNBC. He commented that (thank goodness for at least Blue States their governers will not force businesses to reopen until they get real medical opinions from doctors, epidemiologists, public health officials telling them it's safe to do so.

Luckily Andrew Cuomo (NYS-D) s doing a really good, fiesty job.
Very impressed with Cuomo's leadership
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I watch Cuomo being an actual leader and I can’t help but smile a bit at the memory that there are people who thought that Cynthia Nixon was going to be the governor of New York and that this would be a good idea because she rides the subway.

Politics and leadership isn’t about putting people in office who most closely share your utopian fantasies and promise you a pony on Christmas morning. It means getting people in power who are actually good at government.
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The whole notion is very sickening, and it's particularly troublesome to see some Democrats echoing the rhetoric. Cuomo in particular had the line about "pivoting back to economic functionality," which is very worrying.

To get past this, we need to say "Fuck the market" for the next 4-6 months and just worry about meeting people's needs. Give everyone the money they need, suspend rents/mortgages/et al. to make this all work. We can do it. It's just a matter of willingness from those in power at this point. And our leadership nearly across the board has so far been unwilling to go there.
I don't think that's what Cuomo meant- he meant we need to plan for when this is past- we have start planning how to get the economy back on track now. We can't wait for this to be over to plan-we need parallel planning.
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I watch Cuomo being an actual leader and I can’t help but smile a bit at the memory that there are people who thought that Cynthia Nixon was going to be the governor of New York and that this would be a good idea because she rides the subway.

Politics and leadership isn’t about putting people in office who most closely share your utopian fantasies and promise you a pony on Christmas morning. It means getting people in power who are actually good at government.
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lol I forgot about the Cynthia Nixon push.
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I'd like to personally thank the 76ers ownership for being the biggest assholes in the room. Will now help prevent other owners from following suit
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I don't think that's what Cuomo meant- he meant we need to plan for when this is past- we have start planning how to get the economy back on track now. We can't wait for this to be over to plan-we need parallel planning.
Yes, there has to be a strategy for an orderly return to "normal" life.

The problem with Trump and that idiot in Texas is that this is NOT the appropriate time to be discussing revving up the economy. We are realistically probably at least a couple of months away, if not longer. That doesn't mean that long-term strategic planning shouldn't be done - it should because this too, will end. But to discuss that at the cost of everything else right now is premature, idiotic, and ill-advised, which is basically the hallmark of the Trump presidency.
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Trump is targeting Easter as his reopen date. The strategy would be to do this in areas that aren't as affected by the virus. What's the threshold for that?

Louisiana went from 90 cases a week ago to over 700 now. That's frightening and a powerful thing to consider when thinking about "reopening the economy".
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Trump is targeting Easter as his reopen date. The strategy would be to do this in areas that aren't as affected by the virus.
Good luck finding states that aren't "as affected" by Easter.

And yesterday he was on and on about Nebraska and Idaho as examples of where businesses could open up - yeah, real powerhouses of the US economy.
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Good luck finding states that aren't "as affected" by Easter.

And yesterday he was on and on about Nebraska and Idaho as examples of where businesses could open up - yeah, real powerhouses of the US economy.
Exactly. He's a moron and a narcissistic one at that. This is all about him. I want the doctors and the CDC making these decisions, not him.
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He's apparently trashing Cuomo and Biden in the task force meeting as we speak.
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California started locking down businesses a couple weeks ago and we reported fewer new cases today than Florida, Georgia and Pennsylvania.

The lockdowns work, but they work a lot better if you don't wait around until everyone is dying. Too bad the dumbass states are going to put their people at risk:

https://twitter.com/pblest/status/12...372090880?s=19
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California is not testing nearly enough.

The low numbers are totally deceiving.
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