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Old 03-13-2020, 02:09 PM   #381
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We were supposed to travel today for spring break (spoiler alert: we didn't), rescheduling to next year. Have a trip to Europe planned the last week of June and not sure what will happen with that. If the situation calms down by the fall we're going to Turks or St Barths or somewhere with the kids and my parents just to destress from all this.

Toronto is slowly shutting down. The local grocery store (loblaws) in the west end by our house is out of bread, out of chicken, out of all ground meat and random things like bananas. It looks like the apocalypse. Other stores have lines out the front. Costo is madness and people are now obsessively buying flour and yeast in bulk.

Canadians look to be getting cash from the govt as soon as Monday, massive stimulus.

My husband has been on the phone with US bankers. They are all uniformly of the opinion that the US is the next Italy and things are going to spiral totally out of control.

We have criticized Trump here a lot but there he was last night tweeting about Joe Biden and H1N1. He must be removed for the good of humanity. I firmly now believe that he will be out of office in a landslide. It's easy to roll eyes at his idiotic pronouncements but now it will become obvious to every single person that having him in office is not costless.

This will be very, very bad.
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Old 03-13-2020, 02:16 PM   #382
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The Canadian/US border needs to be closed immediately.

Most of the new cases in Canada are US exports.

They are not taking it seriously and we must act NOW.
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my fiancee works in the international departures area of pearson airport and she says it's a ghost town there today, on what is always the busiest day of the year (friday before the schools take march break).
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Donald Trump sounds like he has general lethargy and perhaps a fever
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The Dow has lost 2% since he started speaking
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The local grocery store (loblaws)
Is the owner named Bob?
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this doctor fauci guy is literally the only one of this entire administration that i trust to be even a little bit honest about any of this.
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drive-thru virus tests in the parking lots of every wal-mart is so incredibly american lol.
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When in doubt point the finger at the CDC and Obama. Honestly I can foresee a day when Trump tries to get rid of Dr. Fauci, if he already hasn't tried.

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WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump on Friday criticized the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for being ill-prepared to test for the coronavirus and he blamed former President Barack Obama for the situation.

"For decades the @CDCgov looked at, and studied, its testing system, but did nothing about it. It would always be inadequate and slow for a large scale pandemic, but a pandemic would never happen, they hoped. President Obama made changes that only complicated things further," he wrote.

In a follow-up tweet, Trump continued his broadside: "Their response to H1N1 Swine flu was a full scale disaster, with thousands dying, and nothing meaningful done to fix the testing problem, until now. The changes have been made and testing will soon happen on a very large scale basis. All Red Tape has been cut, ready to go!"

On Thursday, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, testified at a House hearing that the U.S. has failed to meet the capacity for testing.

"The system is not really geared to what we need right now," he said. “That is a failing. Let's admit it."

Two issues have led to the slow process in testing for COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. One was that the CDC had initially put out narrow guidelines for who could be considered for testing. Those criteria were eventually expanded and so far about 11,000 specimens have been tested, according to the agency. South Korea, on the other hand, has been testing nearly 20,000 people each day for the disease, according to reports.

There were also technical issues with the test kits in which they tested for more than just the coronavirus, and the glitch affected the integrity of the kit.

Trump tweeted Thursday that "Sleepy Joe Biden was in charge of the H1N1 epidemic which killed thousands of people," and said that "the response was one of the worst on record."
Jesus, Trump, shut the goddamn fuck up already.

Seriously. The White House needs to permanently muzzle him. Now. Don't let him do any more speeches or speak to anyone privately or anything. I'd of course prefer they just kick him out completely at this point, but at the VERY least, they really do need to take away his phone, put him in a room, and leave him there.
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lol every one of these CEOs is getting the hell away from trump as rapidly as possible.
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Late stage capitalism: a parade of CEOs from big companies talking about how great their companies are during a White House briefing on a pandemic.
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And Mike Pence attempting to crawl up Trump's ass so far he's starting to poke out of his mouth.

Trump was apparently ahead of everyone else in the world!

They are fucking gaslighting us.
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These companies are so generous to offer a part of their parking lot. It's the best of America.
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And Mike Pence attempting to crawl up Trump's ass so far he's starting to poke out of his mouth.

Trump was apparently ahead of everyone else in the world!

They are fucking gaslighting us.
Well they gaslight us every single day and some people buy it. So they just keep doing it.

Omg he just said some of the doctors say "it will wash through, it will flow through". What doctor said that, Dr Pimple Popper?
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Late stage capitalism: a parade of CEOs from big companies talking about how great their companies are during a White House briefing on a pandemic.
The CEO of CVS ought to get in touch with what goes on in some of his pharmacies. And there were just news stories about unethical practices by CVS regarding prescriptions and profit motives.
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i'm enjoying (not really, but, you know ...) how the conservatives on my FB page have gone from "it's a hoax" to "fucking relax" to "how could China have fucking done this to us" over the course of a single week.
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So we appear to be i taking a different tact in the UK, than most other countries in the UK.

I am partly glad we are not closing the schools as my hospital and every other hospital would lose like 30% of their staff. Like my two colleagues on my team would need to go home to look after young families. Add in a 20% loss of staff from illness and well we would be fucked.

How any of this pans out for us is a bit of a guess, but at the very least it seems to be a tactic being employed by the science advisor to the gov and it's Public health team. Who knows if they are right or not.
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So we appear to be i taking a different tact in the UK, than most other countries in the UK.

I am partly glad we are not closing the schools as my hospital and every other hospital would lose like 30% of their staff. Like my two colleagues on my team would need to go home to look after young families. Add in a 20% loss of staff from illness and well we would be fucked.

How any of this pans out for us is a bit of a guess, but at the very least it seems to be a tactic being employed by the science advisor to the gov and it's Public health team. Who knows if they are right or not.
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LJT, thank you. Do keep looking after yourself, your family, and your patients. And thanks for pointing out so very well the amount of uncertainty all of our countries are facing at the moment.

The next few weeks and months will go by much smoother with some sense of calm and a little common sense.
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I badly mangled that first sentence.

There are going to be hard choices, I am a bit concerned that we are taking such a different path to others, as I would assume they would be acting with their countries best scientific advice as well. So being the outlier is a bit unsettling. But our guys are well respected even if there are lots of arguments going on.

Time will tell. I am also quietly crapping myself about what work will become like in the weeks ahead.
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i'm enjoying (not really, but, you know ...) how the conservatives on my FB page have gone from "it's a hoax" to "fucking relax" to "how could China have fucking done this to us" over the course of a single week.
Seriously, there is a special place in hell for anyone who thinks it's okay to call anything that leads to people being sick/injured or dying a hoax. See also: the "school shootings are a hoax" crowd (whom I'm going to take a wild guess and say are pretty much the same people who were going around saying, "Coronavirus is a hoax!").

Also, "how could China have done this to us"...what? Yes. They all totally schemed and plotted to spread this illness to everybody just for sadistic funsies. Nailed it.

I truly cannot fathom the thought process of people like this. I really can't.
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