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LuckyNumber7
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I would bet money it’s not real, given other publications are showing images of empty beaches. But who knows.
KD got the Rona
LuckyNumber7
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There’s the power of time though... the prior image shown was from over a week ago, and this one was from at least three days ago.
Yes, it’s still bad, but a lot has happened since then. Don’t discount the idea that even reputable news outlets like CBS are trying to make you click on something and get you riled up.
iron yuppie
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Yeah I read an article in the Atlantic today predicting the US hospital system would soon look like a WW1 battlefield. I get this is serious but come on.
MrsSpringsteen
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I've seen the FL crowded beach pictures, supposedly it's Spring break college students in Clearwater. And they think it's funny to hashtag boomer killer on Twitter. Not a good look for those doing either.
I, as one of the aforementioned independent conservatives, only respond when something is worth responding too.
I never said it was fake, I agreed with social distancing, just felt that” tens of thousands may die” a huge overreaction, and still do. I know, what I actually said, factual information , etc is rarely important around here.
But maybe you weren’t talking about me.
An independent conservative is not a Republican. Most Republicans aren’t nearly as conservative as they claim to be
Bluer White
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I would just suggest we're looking at a very, very severe situation with hospital capacity and mainly with our senior citizens. Starting in the next few weeks.
MrsSpringsteen
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No I wasn't talking about you, and I wasn't talking about the other U2 forum that makes fun of posters here. It's an entirely different forum.
By the time this is over, whenever that is, it is possible that tens of thousands could die. Don't know if you're talking US or worldwide, as you know it is worldwide. When you consider how many can't even get tested yet, and how many are high risk elderly and immunocompromised. Like my Dad, he's both. I care about him and so many people like him. They're people, not numbers. Or pawns for wackadoodle conspiracy theorists. Again, not talking about you. If you read further back you'll see who I was talking about.
Not to mention that Covid 19 could return with a vengeance in the fall, if it ever goes away. And a vaccine is at least a year away.
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LuckyNumber7
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I’m not sure the “return in the fall” thing is necessarily real. That’s an assumption that it goes away at all, or is impacted by season.
Bluer White
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No one caused this virus on purpose. It's a terrible, natural event.
An honest count of the casualties in a heavily populated country like ours, rather than a dishonest count from dark countries like China and Iran, it's going to be really tough. Overwhelmingly tough.
An honest count of the casualties in a heavily populated country like ours, rather than a dishonest count from dark countries like China and Iran, it's going to be really tough. Overwhelmingly tough.
MrsSpringsteen
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I'm not either, it's all just speculation at this point. I said if it ever goes away at all.
All I know for sure is that I can't isolate until May, June, July, or beyond. Won't make it through that.
This is creepy. I've never seen that lobby empty, even at 5 am
https://twitter.com/mickakers/status/1239969949113671680?s=19
https://twitter.com/mickakers/status/1239969949113671680?s=19
You called it an overreaction.
Your country is going to be the epicentre very soon. It's a total and complete disaster. LOOK AT THE DATA. Your economy is going to tank harder than you can imagine.
I feel sorry for your citizens who are taking this seriously. They are screwed with the rest of you.
https://twitter.com/dburbach/status/1240063325163184128?s=21
https://twitter.com/dburbach/status/1240063868224909312?s=21
This isn’t going to get better. There’s no adults in the room
https://twitter.com/dburbach/status/1240063868224909312?s=21
This isn’t going to get better. There’s no adults in the room
Vincent Vega
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Vincent Vega
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Factually speaking, most scientists estimate that up to 70% of the population will get infected at some point over the next months. Factually speaking, somewhere between 0.5% and 3.4% of people infected die from the disease.
Of course it is possible that Trump just managed to magically halt the spread of the virus in the US, so that a much lower percentage of Americans will get infected. And maybe he even pulled of the stunning feat of only have healthy individuals get infected, so that save for a few freak deaths everyone comes out fine.
So I made a table (feel free to amend with numbers you deem more realistic, grounded in factual information of course) just to show what a factual hysterical overreaction the statement "tens of thousands may die" is.
I added the 80% bracket, but that is rather unlikely to happen. From the factual statements I read thus far, it seems widespread consensus that it won't affect more than 70% of the population, as by that point herd immunity has been achieved and the virus will die out before finding further hosts. Also, I'd assume the rate of deaths is more likely to remain below three percent, save for a total collapse of the health system in which people just die because treatment is entirely unavailable.
According to this page Italy has a death rate of almost 8%. However, there's a caveat to it: In Italy, every person who contracted Covid-19 and dies will be counted, i.e. even people with other serious health issues in which Covid-19 likely was only an accelerator or fatal complication.
Germany, for example, only counts those people whose death is directly attributed to the Covid-19 infection. I.e. people with other severe conditions often do not get counted.
I don't know which criteria countries such as China or Iran are using, so it's difficult to make comparisons between any two countries.
Welp, this is why you shouldn't check your phone if you get up to the the bathroom at night cause now I'm not going to be able to sleep
https://twitter.com/jeremycyoung/status/1239975682643357696?s=19
https://twitter.com/jeremycyoung/status/1239975682643357696?s=19
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Vincent Vega
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Neil Ferguson the lead academic on the paper now has Covid-19 symptoms and is self isolating.
Smell ya later, Canada
MrsSpringsteen
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CNN just showed aerial video footage of a crowded beach in Florida from a Florida news station. WFLA. So that's a real thing, unless people think it's old video.
Don't understand why beaches aren't closed there. Because tourist dollars are more important than flattening the curve and human lives? Yes tourism is their economy, but the economy has tanked everywhere. What makes them more special?
Don't understand why beaches aren't closed there. Because tourist dollars are more important than flattening the curve and human lives? Yes tourism is their economy, but the economy has tanked everywhere. What makes them more special?
LuckyNumber7
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It’s hard to say what video but yes there has been video (aerial at that) that’s been stamped and reused from March 14th.
Again I’m not discounting that it’s appropriate, and I’m not even suggesting it’s not still happening. It sure seems like it is.
What I am suggesting is that this type of news is intentionally misleading you to anger you as a function of clickbait$$$.
If you want to know the answer about the beaches, it probably has nothing to do with tourism and everything to do with Governor Desantis not having ordered a state of emergency / forced any closures.
MrsSpringsteen
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I would guess it's possible that the Gov of FL hasn't done that for many reasons, one of which might include tourist dollars. He might live to regret that.
MrsSpringsteen
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No difference between March 14th and March 18th. Or March pick a day. Crowds of people shouldn't be on beaches, no matter how selfish and oblivious they may be. It's time to believe this stuff and behave accordingly.
MrsSpringsteen
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US Surgeon General says assume you're infected and behave accordingly. How I behave affects the health of others. That's the reality.
The selfishness of so many people who are not following this advice is astounding.
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