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Give a Legitimate Argument For McCain, Against Obama
That means talking about the actual issues.
__________________Rules of this thread: No talk of experience. No talk of Obama being all about change and hope. No talk of supporters being insane. Give real arguments. |
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Well, since we can't talk about experience, I guess we will talk about economic plans. I personally believe that Obama is just promising waaaay to much. The only way his plans are going to work is by raising taxes. We have got a big ass debt to pay down due to this war. How are we going to do that, pay for these GIGANTIC social programs and keep our economy growing while raising taxes? It can't happen. The nations wealthiest will not be able to pay for these programs alone. If our unemployment rate was really high, I would say, ok, put more people to work and that will put more money in the coffers, but our unemployment rate in the US is not out of control. I'm really not sure what Mccain has promised yet. One thing is for sure. Never believe a politician.
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While I don't agree with your argument, Abomb-baby, thank you for at least putting some substance into this forum.
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I am not sure of the ages of most of the posters in here. I do have some vague ideas. A person can have wisdom at 15 and a person at 60 may not have much wisdom. One advantage of living longer is that one can look back on decisions and evaluate what thinking lead to correct decisions and what thinking lead to incorrect decisions. Hopefully I am not repeating my same mistakes over and over. Each candidate is unique and presents certain advantages. I only asked because I don't believe many people will go to the polls and not consider experience. That will be one of the biggest factors people will consider. To remove it from the discussion, makes the discussion not legitimate. Experience does not always give one the advantage. If the election were between Obama and G W Bush. The Bush experience is a big disadvantage. I would be campaigning for Obama. And all the experience Bush Sr had did not prevent his lost to Clinton. I certainly don't remember anyone saying you can't talk about experience in 1992 during the election between Bill Clinton and GHW Bush Sr. ![]() Quote:
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I suppose you don't have to worry about me, since I won't be old enough to go vote this November.
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Early January. Don't worry about it, though. I've trouble remembering my own friend's birthdays, how can I expect it of FYMers?
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First of all, what's so bad about Obama's experience? He's been in politics for over ten years. What can he not do that McCain can?
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To get back on-thread, there is not a single policy reason that I would vote for McCain.
__________________His health care plan is just idiotic. He's embraced this free-market ideology and thinks that it can correct for all the shortcomings of health care. That is clearly wrong, and worse than that, it's lazy. I am not aware of any kind of economic policy and he's already said he doesn't know much about economics so that's that. As an aside, I don't think he's going to want to talk about this in the general anyway, since it's not the crux of his platform. He already showed poor judgment here by telling the people of Michigan that their jobs are not coming back. That much is true, but it goes to show you that he is completely tone deaf on the economy. His 100 more years in Iraq is not just wrong, but it's not financially sustainable. The US cannot afford to stay there, plain and simple. His saber-rattling regarding Iran is just sabre-rattling in my mind, but it's nonetheless dangerous and it's precisely the sort of issue that will keep American allies from reconciling with the new administration. I do believe he had a reasonable immigration policy, but I think he's started flip flopping and I have no faith at all that he has enough principles left to fight the party on it. Practically speaking, he can't anyway. I haven't heard anything else come out of his mouth that is in some way progressive or will get something done. All he talks about is the war on terror, and treats all the other issues as a "by the way" sort of thing. Aside from that, I have no respect left for him as a person, for a variety of reasons. |
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