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Old 12-11-2007, 11:39 AM   #21
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This woman is very brave. Poor thing. No one should have to go through these things in any lifetime.

I hope the culprits are punished gravely.
Me too. And I applaud this woman for stepping forward.
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Old 12-14-2007, 09:00 AM   #22
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ABC News: The Blotter
Another KBR Rape Claim Brings Scrutiny

December 13, 2007

Justin Rood Reports:

Congress is asking questions about another ex-employee of government contracting firm KBR who claims she was raped in Iraq.

Letters to the Pentagon and the Justice Department today from Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla. underscore congressional concern about a second alleged assault, this time of a woman from Florida who reportedly worked for a KBR subsidiary in Ramadi, Iraq in 2005.

"I am deeply troubled by recent reports that at least two women who worked in Iraq under contractors for the Department of Defense were sexually assaulted by male coworkers," Nelson wrote Defense Secretary Robert Gates Thursday.

In particular, Nelson expressed concern that in the case of Jamie Leigh Jones, the U.S. Army doctor who examined her turned over the rape examination kit, thought to contain useful evidence, to KBR officials. In the letter, Nelson also asked for an investigation to determine how many rape examinations were performed by U.S. military doctors in Iraq, and what was being done to ensure the cases were prosecuted.

In a separate letter to Attorney General Michael Mukasey, Nelson asked why there has been no criminal prosecution in the case of the alleged Florida victim. The woman, reportedly now 41, has alleged she was raped in her living quarters. She has sued KBR and Halliburton in civil court, but the judge ordered the case into private arbitration.

Contacted Thursday, the woman's lawyer said the rules of arbitration prohibit her from discussing the case or making her client available for an interview.

In the woman's complaint, filed earlier this year, she alleges that in December 2005 a drunken KBR co-worker let himself into her living quarters and raped her. The woman worked as a Morale, Welfare and Recreation Coordinator in Ramadi, according to news accounts and Nelson's letter.

In a statement, KBR said it "in no way condones or tolerates any form of sexual harassment." It declined to comment on the Florida case, "as this matter is the subject of ongoing litigation."
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Just watched ABC's 20-20 interview with Jamie Leigh Jones.
Reportedly she's going before a congressional hearing on Capitol Hill next week.
That was a quick segment. Less than 15 minutes.
There wasn't anymore than what has been told here.
Congress is reportedly outraged!
But since the rape kit was given to KBR security and has since disappeared, who knows.
I Truly hope she can get justice.
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I saw the 20/20 segment too, it was unbelievably short given the magnitude of this story.
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I saw it, too.

There was a second woman that came forward and reported physical harassment and worse, nothing was done. It was covered up and she was blamed.

But what is the magnitude?

Is this really that bad?
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Um, ok
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Haliburton is so evil and corrupt, I wouldn't be surprised at anything.
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Is this really that bad?
Are you serious?
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By DAVID IVANOVICH
Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle


ALLEGED RAPE IN IRAQ

Former KBR employee tells her story WASHINGTON — A former KBR worker who says she was gang raped while working in Iraq told a House panel Wednesday that an Army doctor who examined her after the alleged assault turned the physical evidence over to KBR security personnel.

And at some point, some of the medical evidence apparently went missing.

Jamie Leigh Jones, 23, formerly of Conroe, was calm and controlled as she told a House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security how her life changed in July 2005.

Four days after arriving at Camp Hope in Baghdad's "Green Zone" to work for the Pentagon's largest military contractor, Jones accepted a drink from a group of company firefighters.

"I believed that we were all on the same team," she said.

She awoke the next day, bruised and bleeding between her legs. She was taken to an Army support hospital and examined. The physician, Jones said, told her it was apparent she had been raped.

The doctor took photographs and prepared what's known as a "rape kit," containing forensic evidence, and handed the materials over to KBR security personnel, Jones told the panel.

KBR spokeswoman Heather Browne, in an e-mail Wednesday, said a company security coordinator "was given the sexual assault examination kit by the Army hospital upon Ms. Jones' release from the hospital.

"The kit was transported with Ms. Jones back to Camp Hope and was placed in a safe in the KBR security department's office," Browne said. "The kit was released by KBR Security to State Department investigators when the investigators arrived three hours after the kit was received. KBR Security secured a signed property/evidence receipt from the State Department."

Jones said she spoke earlier this year with a special agent of the State Department Diplomatic Security — the State Department's law enforcement arm — who was unaware of the rape kit's existence.

Eventually, the agent found the kit, but the photographs and doctor's notes were missing, Jones said.


KBR officials say they have no knowledge of any materials that have gone missing. KBR declined to address other specifics from Jones' testimony, citing ongoing litigation.
Is it really that bad?

I wonder what really happened?

Remember the Duke case.

If she can't prove her case.

No evidence - no case.

They are innocent.

Aren't we making a molehill out of a mountain?
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No evidence - no case.

Yes, it's REALLY that bad.

You're the one that boldfaced the part about the rape kit.
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^ Ok, in cases such as this I always try to think 'how would I feel if this was my daughter, sister, or mother.' I'd be furious, outraged, and I'd want answers.

Wouldn't this outrage you? A woman is allegedly raped and important elements of the kit used to examine her and collect evidence that, in theory, would help find the perpetrators, are missing.

The facts of the Duke case, in my opinion, have no bearing on this particular case. The Duke case, I believe, suffered from a lack of evidence and flimsy, at best, testimony from the alleged victim. In the Halliburton case, she can't prove her case because the evidence that was collected mysteriously disappears! Therein lies the difference.

And yes, it really is that bad. Not only for the rape, which is bad enough, but because these contractors seem to believe, wrongly I might add, that they are above the law.
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And yes, it really is that bad. Not only for the rape, which is bad enough, but because these contractors seem to believe, wrongly I might add, that they are above the law.
Precisely.


Deep, since you started the thread and posted the original article, maybe you can clarify...was your point that she is lying and this isn't a big deal after all?
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Yes, it's REALLY that bad.

You're the one that boldfaced the part about the rape kit.
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Aren't we making a molehill out of a mountain?
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Deep, since you started the thread and posted the original article, maybe you can clarify...was your point that she is lying and this isn't a big deal after all?
There have been so many atrocities that have happened over there.

I can't even begin to list.

How many people have been killed by contractors or enlisted men that were doing nothing but living their lives in their own country?

thousands, tens of thousands?

We barely see the tip of the ice berg

If it is not reported, it did not happen


I am outraged by this story - 100 % outraged

but in the scope of crimes that have occurred over there

on the one to ten scale?

there are far too many that are 2, 3 and 4 points higher

So is this only a 6?

Keep in mind - I am 100% outraged!


Will there be any justice?

Are worse crimes being ignored?

This one may hit home, because we as Americans can relate more to her. I have two younger sisters that are blond, blue eyed that resemble her.


But what of Abeer Qassim al-Janabi?

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The soldiers noticed her at a checkpoint. They stalked her after one or more of them expressed his intention to rape her. On March 12, after playing cards while slugging whisky mixed with a high-energy drink and practicing their golf swings, they changed into black civvies and burst into Abeer's home in Mahmoudiya, a town 50 miles south of Baghdad. They killed her mother Fikhriya, father Qassim, and five-year-old sister Hadeel with bullets to the forehead, and "took turns" raping Abeer. Finally, they murdered her, drenched the bodies with kerosene, and lit them on fire to destroy the evidence. Then the GIs grilled chicken wings.
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Making a mountain out of a molehill - means to make a big deal out of a minor issue.


I wrote "Making a molehill out of a mountain"
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Then I guess I'm missing the point of the cryptic posting?....
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Yes, we only care about blond blue eyed Americans and not the 14 year old girl or atrocities committed by Americans. So is that why you started this thread, so you could scold us for your (incorrect) assumptions? To that I give another

It's not cryptic
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