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Old 02-22-2003, 07:24 PM   #21
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I was a Democrat.....Clinton destroyed any faith I had in the party.
I am now a Republican....

Currently if the Democratic Party can put forward a candidate that can demonstrate a remotely conservative fiscal plan and meet me on most social issues that I believe in, I am open to change.

You need a better Democrat. Or it seems like a very good one might be your cup of tea.
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A friend with political ambitions told me that he'll be a Democrat until he can afford becoming a Republican.
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i'm a future teacher - that forces me to vote democrat.















but i don't
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I think that is how you got your Governor.
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Seems like these days you're a republican if you're for Bush and a democrat if you're not, regardless of if you liked Clinton.
if by republican you mean american, and by democrat you mean unamerican, then yes.

j/k...

i would say i'm a democrat, pretty much for all the reasons everyone else has said. sorry to not contribute more, but i didn't think an essay was necessary when a sentence would do.
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oh the fun i can have here....
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democrats and republicans have the same beliefs anyway, just different policy on how to execute their platforms. it's irritating to think that you can't actually define them cos they're almost exactly the same.

Lilly - thank you for taking the time to find the party beliefs. I didn't see each party having the same beliefs. Melon did a much better job articulating my feelings than I would have done.
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I was a Democrat.....Clinton destroyed any faith I had in the party.
I am now a Republican....

I am very conservative in the area of Security in the country, and on taxation.

I am very liberal when it comes to social issues except abortion.

I hate the fact that my party is controlled by the right wing and I hope that will change.

I also believe that GW Bush wanted to change it, however, circumstances caused him to move right in the last election.

I am not happy with the current administration on many issues.

Currently if the Democratic Party can put forward a candidate that can demonstrate a remotely conservative fiscal plan and meet me on most social issues that I believe in, I am open to change.
Out of curiosity, what did Clinton do to destroy your faith in the Democratic party? Have sex with that woman? What conservative fiscal plan could top getting rid of the deficit?
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Just want to clarify, Lilly posted the Democratic and Republican Platforms for Texas.....

Not the National Platforms.
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Just want to clarify, Lilly posted the Democratic and Republican Platforms for Texas.....

Not the National Platforms.

Oh, heck, I didn't get it at all. No wonder. It's sort of like Alabama politics--both parties are basically conservative, but the Republicans are more so than the Democrats. It would take an act of God or whatever for a Democratic Presidential candidate to carry this state. The last one to do so was Jimmy Carter in 1976, and that was a fluke because he was from Georgia. He lost it four years later when Reagan carried the state.
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Out of curiosity, what did Clinton do to destroy your faith in the Democratic party? Have sex with that woman? What conservative fiscal plan could top getting rid of the deficit?

I've always thought that way also. Getting rid of the deficit was a big time fiscally conservative deal. Liberals raised hell over some economic stuff Clinton did, especially the welfare reform bill of 1996. It's funny, you think of deficit spending as a liberal thing. Well, not lately of course.
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Just want to clarify, Lilly posted the Democratic and Republican Platforms for Texas.....

Not the National Platforms.
Thanks for pointing that out Dread. I copied below from the National Republican Committee's site and it sounds much better to me:

http://www.rnc.org/gopinfo/gopoath


The Republican Oath



I believe that the proper function of government is to do for the people those things that have to be done but cannot be done, or cannot be done as well by individuals, and that the most effective government is government closest to the people.

I believe that good government is based on the individual and that each person's ability, dignity, freedom and responsibility must be honored and recognized.

I believe that free enterprise and the encouragement of individual initiative and incentive have given this nation an economic system second to none.

I believe that sound money policy should be our goal.

I believe in equal rights, equal justice and equal opportunity for all, regardless of race, creed, age, sex or national origin. I believe that persons with disabilities should be afforded equal rights, equal justice and equal opportunity as well.

I believe we must retain those principles worth retaining, yet always be receptive to new ideas with an outlook broad enough to accommodate thoughtful change and varying points of view.

I believe that Americans value and should preserve their feeling of national strength and pride, and at the same time share with people everywhere a desire for peace and freedom and the extension of human rights throughout the world.

Finally, I believe that the Republican Party is the best vehicle for translating these ideals into positive and successful principles of government.


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What do you interrupt these to mean?

I believe that good government is based on the individual and that each person's ability, dignity, freedom and responsibility must be honored and recognized.

This needs to be explained further.

I believe that the proper function of government is to do for the people those things that have to be done but cannot be done, or cannot be done as well by individuals, and that the most effective government is government closest to the people.

Does this mean that everything should be done at the local level and through real estate taxes?


The front page of this web site is bashing all of the democratic candidates for the 2004 election. Oh brother!
http://www.rnc.org/Newsroom/RNCResea...arch022103.htm

(edited to fix error in link and spelling)
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Can I be the Vice?
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Out of curiosity, what did Clinton do to destroy your faith in the Democratic party? Have sex with that woman? What conservative fiscal plan could top getting rid of the deficit?
OK...Clinton.....

Here it goes.

#1 Start off with cutting the reserves when he came into office. I watched people with 14-16 years in the Reserves being told they had to go become cooks, if they wanted a pension. I was pretty disgusted at how quickly people who had given years to their country were dismissed.
#2 The sex part did not bother me, good for him.
#3 The lying under oath bothered me. The fact that men and women in the service woudl be court marshalled for the same behavior, lying under oath, I find horrible. Obstruction of justice bothers me.
#4 The Pattern of sexual harrassment bothers me.
#5 The definition of what 'is" is disgusted me. The fact that if his name came up in school, 4th graders would chuckle. Try teaching students the value of the word INTEGRITY, RESPONSIBILITY ect. when he was demonstrating none of these qualities.
#6 Not having the integrity to step down for the good of the country, party, ect.
#7 Getting a BJ while ordering troops into harms way. THink about it. I believe he had ordered troops into Somalia or Hatti at the time.
#8 Affirmative Action Promotions in the FBI and CIA causing some of the best career people to resign from the agencies leaving us open to terrorism. (See BREAKDOWN, Bill Gertz)
#9 Bombing Targets in other countries when (see BREAKDOWN, Bill Gertz) there was no reason to do so. Clearly, wanted to take headlines off of himself.
#10 Dragging his family through the mess he created.

But, realistically, the Democratic Party should have taken care of him. And that, to me is the most offensive thing of all. They allowed him to maintain his power. If they had taken care of business, Al Gore would have won the election. He would have been a sitting president.

AS for our State. I have switched to the Republican Party because we live in a one party state where they (DEMS) have been taxing and spending. They have abused and corrupted their postions. I am very happy to see things be shaken up in our state. I see great things in the future for Mr. Romney, should he do a good job here. The jury is still out.


PS....I missed your post. Thanks for linking me up.
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I believe that good government is based on the individual and that each person's ability, dignity, freedom and responsibility must be honored and recognized.
God, the Republicans are so full of shit.

Anyway, without taking this so far off-topic it'll never get back, I am frequently too liberal for the Democrats.


Caught all you by surprise there, huh!
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Old 03-04-2003, 02:10 AM   #36
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But, realistically, the Democratic Party should have taken care of him. And that, to me is the most offensive thing of all. They allowed him to maintain his power. If they had taken care of business, Al Gore would have won the election. He would have been a sitting president.
well, al gore's a bit of a doofus isn't he?
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I believe in equal rights, equal justice and equal opportunity for all, regardless of race, *****, age, sex or national origin. I believe that persons with disabilities should be afforded equal rights, equal justice and equal opportunity as well.
Not good enough. Try again.

Oh and isn't it funny that c-r-e-e-d is a blacklisted word?

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Not good enough. Try again.

Oh and isn't it funny that c-r-e-e-d is a blacklisted word?

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That is strange! The page that I copied from has ***** and not ***** and I didn't edit it.
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What's up with ***** and the *****?
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