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Old 04-30-2008, 08:40 AM   #161
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Don't Be Common

By the way, what happens, at least statistically, should you convince at least 50% of the populace to join you on your crusade against commonness? Don't you then become common?

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Old 04-30-2008, 09:47 AM   #162
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Old 04-30-2008, 11:41 AM   #163
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get some sack and get your lanky a*s to the theater and view the film
Tsk, tsk, diamond. You should know better than to directly insult others in this forum.

Besides, your challenge is empty, because I can guarantee you that if I went to see the movie and came back with the same points, you'd still refuse to discuss them and find another convenient escape from actually talking about the issues.
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:27 PM   #164
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By the way, what happens, at least statistically, should you convince at least 50% of the populace to join you on your crusade against commonness? Don't you then become common?

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Um, no.

You are assuming there's only one way not to conform or be common.

Some very scary thinking.
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Old 04-30-2008, 07:37 PM   #165
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That was kinda the point of the whole movie. Evolution does not explain how life started. Evolution requires, at the minimum; living, replicating cellular life.
So then, how did life begin? Well, we really don't have any clue how, strictly by chance, molecules assembled themselves from nonliving things into living things -- only that they did, and that only a monotone Jew or snake-handling inbreed would think otherwise.
There is no reason to suppose that God is a reasonable hypothesis. Organic chemistry is still chemistry and it obeys the laws of physics, theres no need for a divine spark.
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Old 04-30-2008, 07:53 PM   #166
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Stein: When we just saw that man, I think it was Mr. Myers [i.e. biologist P.Z. Myers], talking about how great scientists were, I was thinking to myself the last time any of my relatives saw scientists telling them what to do they were telling them to go to the showers to get gassed … that was horrifying beyond words, and that’s where science — in my opinion, this is just an opinion — that’s where science leads you.

Crouch: That’s right.

Stein: …Love of God and compassion and empathy leads you to a very glorious place, and science leads you to killing people.

Crouch: Good word, good word.
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Well, then I guess Ben Stein really is stupider than he looks, if he's going to construct absurd "reductio ad Hitlerum"-type arguments like that.
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Wow. And here I thought Ben Stein was smart.
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If anyone's curious, you can watch the show those quotes came from here (they're at minutes 27-28):

http://tbn.org/video_portal/

Click "Behind the Scenes," then "April 21, 2008." It's about 30 minutes long in all.
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