Even conservatives file frivolous lawsuits...

[Angela Harlem]

BOOBIE!!!!!



Just re: the affording the same to the conservatives, I think we'd all agree we are victims of unfair labels sometimes and maybe at times dole them out unfairly or without even realising. It is virtually impossible to keep a scoreboard tally of who says what and how exactly unfair or unbalanced it is in here, but I really believe as long as there is respect, we have a good start.

This could be taken alternatively as a slight (which I dont think it even is) on liberals as well, it could almost say instead "See, its not just hippy tree hugging liberals who are stupid with these lawsuits!" Offence can be difficult to pre-determine, but with a little respect and the idea that something is not to be taken literally can help things. A convenient loophole perhaps, but we are all smart enough to know where to draw the line, methinks.


/sidetracking

 

[Salome]

Who really cares about Janet's boob?

I do
in a heterosexual kinda way

 

[Dreadsox]

BOOBIE!!!!!

You have hurt me by saying boobie...I am suing

 

[Angela Harlem]

so...if i flashed you especially after you took a mr happy pill...what would you do then?


actually, lets not go there...its not like they look like janet's! i've given birth you know!


ok, i am not going to sidetrack this thread any more

 

[Salome]

angie and her sidetracking boobies

 

[Dreadsox]

 

[verte76]

I've read about liberals filing stupid lawsuits; I've read about conservatives filing stupid lawsuits. Unfortunately rip-offs and idiots come in all kinds. I live in a conservative place, so most of the things done around here are done by conservatives. There will be more liberal idiots elsewhere because more of the people are liberals.

 

[Liesje]

Back to the 4 hour thing...still trying to figure out if that is good or bad.

My boyfriend took this Psych. of Sex. class and he read out loud to me that an erection more than 4 hours is really bad (if that's what you're talking about). I don't remember exactly what the consequences are since I'm not a guy. But basically we agreed that Sting is a liar and he CAN'T have sex for 7 hours or his penis would fall off, for real.

From viagra.com "In the rare event of an erection lasting more than 4 hours, see your doctor."

 

[nbcrusader]

Well, kids are going to have to understand what all that stuff is eventually, because a lot of kids' parents struggle with those very issues themselves nowadays, sadly. Infidelity and seduction are a part of life. There's kids that see it in their own homes each day.

So, instead of being able to lay down the principles that can later address itmes such as infidielity and seduction, I have to react to broadcast images of some commercial entity.

Who are you going to let raise your children? You or MTV?

 

[Moonlit_Angel]

I want to sue someone for the agony of watching this whole incident become a debacle. Who cares 2 tosses about bare boobies? Viagra ads? Etc? (I ran out of examples ) Who really cares about Janet's boob? I understand parenting issues and wanting to shield and monitor what your child is exposed to, but what is the earth shattering damage to a 9 year old's (for example) eyes at seeing a bare breast? I'd think by age 9 everyone has seen a naked breast. It is not new, nor upsetting to most kids. Its something to giggle at "hihihi look, her boobie is showing!" Kids have short attention spans too. Any child who has remembered it is most likely done so because of the constant attention.
As for an adult, this woman...Sheesus. If she has not seen a bare breast by now...God help her. If it offends her...I wonder how she showers every morning

As for viagra etc...Eventually any parent will need to explain some rudimentary 'adult issues'. Unfortunately for most parents, what piques a child's attention can be most often unforseen whether it is on a Superbowl ad or on a passing bus's side billboard. It is always the parent's choice and right to choose how and when, but nearly impossible to shield every possible opportunity for unecessary exposure. Better to accept it and pre-plan a way of dealing with it, than freak out when unprepared, no?

Thank you.

Originally posted by nbcrusader
So, instead of being able to lay down the principles that can later address itmes such as infidielity and seduction, I have to react to broadcast images of some commercial entity.

I was saying that a lot of kids deal with these issues in their everyday lives-either their parents are involved in that kind of thing, or they know kids at school whose parents are involved in that kind of thing, or hear their parents discussing someone they heard about who had an affair or whatever, and as a result of that stuff, they will have some questions. They'll find out about those issues in their own lives long before they experience it being played out on TV, that's all I'm saying. And once they do see it on TV, well, it's not much of a shock to them, now, is it? They've already dealt with it.

Also, so should kids never watch the nightly news? I mean, if you're concerned about how they react to Viagra commericals...

Originally posted by nbcrusader
Who are you going to let raise your children? You or MTV?

I'm going to raise my kids. That's the whole point. I'm not going to rely on MTV to raise my children. That is not their job, nor do I expect it to become their job.

You have instilled good values in your kid, so you shouldn't have to worry about the images they see on TV.

Angela

 

[nbcrusader]

Yes, some kids experience just about every dreadful thing in life you can imagine. But why turn that into fodder for everyday broadcasting?

Think of this example. The "N" word is offensive to some people. Some children hear this word as part of their everyday life. Is it then okay to use this word during regular family broadcasting hours? We seem very comfortable censoring some things in life, but when others get funneled into our households, we get a type response.

 

[Angela Harlem]

Examples are a problem in only that what works for one, will not work for others. It is impossible to have a standard of censorship which suits everyone. Racial descriptions are valid on their own, but not comparable.

 

[oliveu2cm]

I dunno, some of the commercials on the Super Bowl did bother me. Like the one that implied that a burger king burger is so good, it can make even a large woman sexy. Plus all the sex those ads sell.. I don't think kids need to be seeing that sort of thing. (And I can think of plenty of adults who don't need to see the messages those ads project!!)

The whole Janet Jackson ordeal has gotten blown so out of control that it's annoying (not to mention overshadowing the fact the Patriots won ). I don't think she should have done it, it was a pathetic publicity stunt. My friend is a 3rd grade teacher and guess what all the kids were talking about the next day?? (Because they saw it or b/c of the hype, who knows?)

Of course this whole "suing" is complete bullshit and unless her kids are home schooled, do not watch the news, have access to the internet, do not get any sort of magazines etc., it's even more obvious it's bs.

 

[Dreadsox]

My friend is a 3rd grade teacher and guess what all the kids were talking about the next day?? (Because they saw it or b/c of the hype, who knows?)

Interesting....

None of the kids in my room were talking about it. I teach 3rd as well.

My wife said her kids were though......I told my wife she obviously was not giving the class enough work if they had enough time to talk,

I got hit

 

[nbcrusader]

Our family watched the halftime show, and only my wife caught the boob flash. My son (a 3rd grader) was unaware until it became big time news (what Janet Jackson was really after).

 

[Dreadsox]

And that is what kills me...The news media flashing the flash constantly...made it bigger than it was....no pun intended.

 

[Moonlit_Angel]

Yes, some kids experience just about every dreadful thing in life you can imagine. But why turn that into fodder for everyday broadcasting?

TV is a reflection of society. Shows and commercials will deal with issues that people experience every day.

Originally posted by nbcrusader
Think of this example. The "N" word is offensive to some people. Some children hear this word as part of their everyday life. Is it then okay to use this word during regular family broadcasting hours? We seem very comfortable censoring some things in life, but when others get funneled into our households, we get a type response.

As I said before, I don't think that word should be censored, whether it's heard on TV or not. First off, again, the context in which words like that are uttered is important to consider before we go around even considering censoring it. "All In The Family" was on during the primetime hour, and there were ample racial slurs used there. But those weren't censored because of the context they were used in.

Second, everybody has the right to say what they want, no matter how harsh it may be. In order to rid this world of hatred, we need to confront these attitudes head on and have people realize how silly, cruel, and ignorant racist, homophobic, and sexist statements sound.

Also, ditto the quote from Angela Harlem.

Angela

 

[verte76]

I remember hearing the "n" word on the playground when I was a third-grader. My parents were emphatic that racism was dead wrong, and they told us that. This does need to be confronted early on; that's part of a child's moral training. In my case it was handled as an article of my religious education. My parents were not always in agreement with what our conservative church told us and so they taught us much of our religious training. To me, it's another matter when the issues are a little more complex, like infidelity. I'm not raising kids, so I really don't know, but I would think the child needs to be a bit older to grasp this. My own brother and first sister-in-law divorced when their child was only seven. I have no idea what to do in a situation like this. It's very tough.