equality blooms with spring, pt. II

[Irvine511]

is a discussion on opposite-sex marriage appropriate for first graders?

[MrsSpringsteen]

I think if straight teachers can tell students that they are getting married then gay people should be able to do exactly the same. I would question whether or not the teacher opened it up to questions and there's not enough information about that in the article. I don't think straight or gay marriages of teachers should be a subject of questions/discussion for students. You have to maintain a professional line and for me that would be it. And the key for me would be both straight and gay marriages.

I don't know enough about the book and why it was read and all the details to form an opinion about that.

I think there's enough information in the ether about gay marriage and the fact that it exists and that gay people exist. Enough that any mention of it in school is not stealing a seven year old's sense of innocence. I think one flick of a tv switch could easily do that-and it would have nothing to do with gay people or gay marriage.

[martha]

recruitment?


People are still using that word and concept?

[INDY500]

Tokyo, Japan (CNN) -- Nene Anegasaki is a witty, doe-eyed beauty. She looks perfectly perky in sexy skirts, doesn't pick fights and is always at one Tokyo man's beck and call -- that is why the 27-year-old decided to marry her.

The only complication: She is a videogame character in the Nintendo DS game called "Love Plus."

Still, that didn't stop Sal 9000 -- the only name the groom would give -- from marrying Nene in a ceremony witnessed live by thousands on the Web.

When asked if Nene is his dream woman, Sal replied, "Yes, she is. Her character changes to my liking as we talk and travel to different places."

Japan's Internet community has witnessed relationships and marriages to avatars, though it's typically been within the confines of the virtual world. Last month, Sal decided to be the first human-to-avatar union. Clad in a white tux, Sal married Nene in front of some friends and Web users watching the ceremony live online.

The wedding, while not legally binding, was Sal's way of expressing his devotion to his avatar girlfriend.

"I love this character, not a machine," said Sal, when asked about whether he can love an electronic device. "I understand 100 percent that this is a game. I understand very well that I cannot marry her physically or legally."

Glad to see the bigoted hegemony that marriage is between a real man and a real woman is finally crumbling.

[BVS]

Your definition never said anything about real, you didn't give a shit as long as it was man and woman, so you should be praising this sanctity of marriage...

[anitram]

I'm sure the "man marries goat/giraffe/dog" posts are almost upon us.

Lather, rinse, repeat!

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by INDY500

Glad to see the bigoted hegemony that marriage is between a real man and a real woman is finally crumbling.

seriously? this just proves the absolute absence of any argument against same-sex marriage.

[Irvine511]

remember how a few weeks ago, we were talking about how the Catholic Church in DC was threatening to stop helping the poor if, God forbid, they had to extend benefits to same-sex partners of their employees and most of us were like, "get over it already."

well, turns out they did.

Legalization of Same Sex Marriage in the Nation’s Capital
Archdiocese Remains Committed to Serving Poor

December 15, 2009

Today the District of Columbia joined a handful of states where legislatures or courts have redefined marriage to include persons of the same sex. Since this legislation was first introduced in October, the Archdiocese of Washington opposed the redefinition of marriage based on the core teaching of the Catholic Church that the complementarity of man and woman is intrinsic to the definition of marriage. However, understanding the City Council was committed to legalizing same sex marriages, the archdiocese advocated for a bill that would balance the Council’s interest in redefining marriage with the need to protect religious freedom. Regrettably, the bill did not strike that balance.

The Archdiocese of Washington and Catholic Charities are deeply committed to serving those in need, regardless of race, creed, gender, ethnic origin or sexual orientation. This commitment is integral to our Catholic faith and will remain unchanged into the future.

Religious organizations have long been eligible to provide social services in our nation’s capital and have not been excluded simply because of their religious character. This is because the choice of provider has focused on the ability to deliver services effectively and efficiently. We are committed to serving the needs of the poor and look forward to working in partnership with the District of Columbia consistent with the mission of the Catholic Church.

Contact:
Susan Gibbs
Director of Communications
301-853-4517
gibbss@adw.org

Box Turtle Bulletin » Washingon Archdiocese: Forget We Said All That

[anitram]

The Archdiocese of Washington and Catholic Charities are deeply committed to serving those in need, regardless of race, creed, gender, ethnic origin or sexual orientation. This commitment is integral to our Catholic faith and will remain unchanged into the future.

This is one of the few things that I have always found impressive in the Catholic Church (both on a small and large scale).

[DrTeeth]

Then again, using the poor as political leverage. Have these people no shame?

[BVS]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

seriously? this just proves the absolute absence of any argument against same-sex marriage.

Exactly, I'm still baffled as to what INDY's point was with this one... I think the stress of the holidays might be getting to him.

[anitram]

Originally Posted by DrTeeth

Then again, using the poor as political leverage. Have these people no shame?

Apparently not.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by BVS

I think the stress of the holidays might be getting to him.

you mean the stress of CHRISTMAS. please.

[BVS]

Of course, what was I thinking...

[phillyfan26]

Originally Posted by INDY500

Glad to see the bigoted hegemony that marriage is between a real man and a real woman is finally crumbling.

Either you're fucking with us (I sincerely hope so, and hey, a Bill Hicks fan has to have a good sense of humor) ... or you're an idiot.

[INDY500]

Originally Posted by phillyfan26

Either you're fucking with us (I sincerely hope so, and hey, a Bill Hicks fan has to have a good sense of humor) ... or you're an idiot.

C) All the above.

[phillyfan26]

Originally Posted by INDY500

C) All the above.

I just took three exams in one day, totaling exactly 315 multiple choice questions between them. I was hoping to avoid more of this. Damn you, Internet.

[financeguy]

Originally Posted by anitram

This is one of the few things that I have always found impressive in the Catholic Church (both on a small and large scale).

You're lapsed Catholic too, right? I am thinking of going through the formal process of leaving the RC empire. Apparently there's a process you can go through of formally renouncing membership of the RC church and I'd rather be definitive at this point. I'd rather not do the typical Irish Catholic agnostic thing of "I don't really believe in God but I do think there's something out there but the parents wouldn't approve and anyway I'd prefer to hedge my bets, just in case ". I might ask my cousin about this over the Christmas - he's atheist too. He usually makes a point of announcing or in some way alluding to it over Xmas dinner, which I always get a laugh out of.

[financeguy]

Originally Posted by phillyfan26

Either you're fucking with us (I sincerely hope so, and hey, a Bill Hicks fan has to have a good sense of humor) ... or you're an idiot.

Yes, well I have the distinct impression that some FYM'rs take Indy's posts a bit too seriously at times.

[phillyfan26]

Originally Posted by financeguy

You're lapsed Catholic too, right? I am thinking of going through the formal process of leaving the RC empire. Apparently there's a process you can go through of formally renouncing membership of the RC church and I'd rather be definitive at this point. I'd rather not do the typical Irish Catholic agnostic thing of "I don't really believe in God but I do think there's something out there but the parents wouldn't approve and anyway I'd prefer to hedge my bets, just in case ". I might ask my cousin about this over the Christmas - he's atheist too. He usually makes a point of announcing or in some way alluding to it over Xmas dinner, which I always get a laugh out of.

Guess who did the typical Irish Catholic agnostic thing of not wanting to make the parents upset? THIS GUY. I actually think I could tell my mother I killed a guy and she'd be less upset than if I said I was leaving the Church.