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Yes there are medical issues and physical issues such as Deep mentioned, but the "bonds" can go both ways. |
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You said they're all good people with secure homes, why do we need to go any further? Those are by far the most important factors, aren't they? |
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I can see that you want to treat same-sex couples as inherently inferior to heterosexual couples, you have explicitly stated this belief is religious, and have been trying to justify it by clutching at any argument you can find.
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You do realize that before divorce laws were re-written in the West that women had basically no means of leaving a marriage with an equal split of property and a variety of other issues?
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"Gee, we appreciate your interest in adopting a child, Mr. and Mr. Smith. You seem like a very loving, responsible couple who are eager to start a family. Unfortunately, there's a slight possibility that a better, more straight couple is out there. So if you wouldn't mind waiting a few months/years until we either find that couple or decide to settle for you, that'd be just swell. No hard feelings right?" Seriously, AEON, do you realize the implications of what you're proposing here? |
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I am definitely not arguing for getting rid of divorce entirely, I'd be in favour of making it more difficult however. |
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I think you've pretty much summed up the entire thread here.
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How is keeping two people forced into a loveless marriage beneficial? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure that when divorce was banned in Ireland, it didn't keep families together; it just made for a lot of separated spouses having extramarital relationships.
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This argument doesn't work because same-sex parents don't fare any worse than straight couples. It also fails for childless couples, of any orientation. Crying that somebody should think of the children is a lame tactic designed to take equal rights out of the discussion. |
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In other words, if it's ok for a bank to take massive risks on the markets because they have been given the nod that if their bets go wrong, the taxpayer will ultimately bail them out, then it seems to me that, in a somewhat similar fashion, the system is saying that it's ok for a sexually promiscous heterosexual type to conceive a bunch of kids they don't have the financial resources to care for - because, hey, even if I can't take care of my kids, some nice heterosexual OR homosexual couple that can't conceive on their own can just adopt them. In both cases, there's a risk that prudence goes out the window. |
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Given two responsible, secure and loving couples, one heterosexual and one homosexual, do you think it possible that the homosexual couple could be better parents than the heterosexuals? |
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