equality blooms with spring, pt. II

[BVS]

Well, considering we had a thread about the subject not all that long ago. I think this was the situation being discussed at that time:

Alan Colmes' Liberaland � Mother Of Octuplets Has Six Other Kids

Unfuckingbelievable



What does this have to do with adoption?

What does this have to do with "certain classes of society"? "Badges of honor", or "handouts"?

The octomom is ONE person, she kept her babies, an she was obviously mentally disturbed.

Wow, just wow...

 

[financeguy]

Unfuckingbelievable



What does this have to do with adoption?

What does this have to do with "certain classes of society"? "Badges of honor", or "handouts"?

The octomom is ONE person, she kept her babies, an she was obviously mentally disturbed.

Wow, just wow...

Un-expletive-believable, is it? Well, Colmes is actually a liberal, and he has reservations about the situation. So, you know, it's ok for you to actually agree with Colmes. And you should see some of the comments after the article. As I've said before, the most right wing poster on FYM is a moderate in real world terms.

 

[AEON]

As I've said before, the most right wing poster on FYM is a moderate in real world terms.

That is an astute observation, and perhaps even an understatement....

 

[BVS]

Un-expletive-believable, is it? Well, Colmes is actually a liberal, and he has reservations about the situation. So, you know, it's ok for you to actually agree with Colmes. And you should see some of the comments after the article. As I've said before, the most right wing poster on FYM is a moderate in real world terms.

I don't care who or what Colmes is, this article has nothing to do with your claim.

Your thinking "the most right wing...is a moderate in the real world" makes me laugh, and I just have to question your mental state right now? Why are you not even trying to tie the two together?

NONE OF THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOUR CLAIM. Not one thing, it's just some oddball rightwing propaganda that you fell for.

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

What's the claim? I'm confused-this thread is becoming difficult to follow

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[BVS]

That is an astute observation, and perhaps even an understatement....

You really truly believe this?

First of all the "right" in the US is completely different from the "right" of the rest of the world. You can't even get the "right" in FYM to agree with some of your ultra right views.

I'm sorry, but there is nothing astute about his observation, actually it's quite obtuse.

 

[financeguy]

What's the claim? I'm confused-this thread is becoming difficult to follow

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That I'm mad, apparently?

 

[phillyfan26]

What's the claim? I'm confused-this thread is becoming difficult to follow

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I questioned what the problem would be with allowing homosexual couples to have the right to adopt. FG proposed that idea that there are people out there who carelessly get pregnant over and over again simply due to indifference because, what the hell, someone'll just adopt this kid.

 

[BVS]

What's the claim? I'm confused-this thread is becoming difficult to follow

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Fguy believes there is a certain class of society that likes to have a lot of kids and put them up for adoption, it's a badge of honor for them.



And then something about "handouts"...

 

[phillyfan26]

I agree that there are no extremists posting on FYM. I'd say someone like Diamond is at least moderately conservative though, not moderate.

 

[financeguy]

I agree that there are no extremists posting on FYM. I'd say someone like Diamond is at least moderately conservative though, not moderate.

Diamond and 2861U2 are somewhat on the right, but no more so than millions of others. STING2 is only right wing on national security issues, left leaning on most others as far as I can gather.

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

I questioned what the problem would be with allowing homosexual couples to have the right to adopt. FG proposed that idea that there are people out there who carelessly get pregnant over and over again simply due to indifference because, what the hell, someone'll just adopt this kid.

Ok, thanks-well I don't see the connection there either So gay people would somehow be responsible for that? They can have all the babies they want cause the gay people will just adopt them?

And I think diamond is probably less conservative than he wants us to believe- or maybe it's just <> that's conservative and his other identity diamond swings from chandeliers. He boxes it off into two so he can live in both worlds

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[VintagePunk]

Flickr Photo Download: Anti-Gay Bingo

 

[deep]

The image needs to be bigger.

Us old people can't read that small print.

 

[melon]

The image needs to be bigger.

Us old people can't read that small print.

I think we can officially cross off the entire board.

 

[Irvine511]

I am still not convinced that it is a child's best chance for success if equally qualified heterosexual couples are available.

and nearly everyone who works in adoption would tell you that many, many, many other factors are far, far more important to an adopted child's "success" than the sexual orientation of his/her parents.

can you name me certain essential parenting techniques that a woman could never, ever provide on the basis of her gender and thus must rely upon her husband to perform because he is a male, and vice versa?

 

[martha]

Irvine, melon: It's not that I'm giving up, I'm just taking a break from the lameness. You know I'll always be on the correct side, and I'll fight the good fight, but this thread is getting too stupid for me right now.

 

[BoMac]

Irvine, melon: It's not that I'm giving up, I'm just taking a break from the lameness. You know I'll always be on the correct side, and I'll fight the good fight, but this thread is getting too stupid for me right now.

So are you giving up being an angry, white woman?

 

[martha]

So are you giving up being an angry, white woman?

Just for now.

 

[Irvine511]

Just for now.

before you go, can you give us a list of things that Steve can do because of his gender that you never, ever could do because of your gender?

like math? opening the pickle jar? changing the oil?

because as we all know, homophobia isn't really just sexism.

 

[nathan1977]

can you name me certain essential parenting techniques that a woman could never, ever provide on the basis of her gender and thus must rely upon her husband to perform because he is a male, and vice versa?

You mean besides helping girls deal with their sexual development? Ditto for boys?

Just off the top of my head....

 

[deep]

before you go, can you give us a list of things that Steve can do

1. martha

 

[nathan1977]

LOL, Deep. Nice one.

 

[martha]

1. martha

That's about it. But that's all I need.

 

[Irvine511]

You mean besides helping girls deal with their sexual development? Ditto for boys?

Just off the top of my head....

it's true -- men should run away screaming when their daughters get their periods.

i mean, gosh, "with wings?" whatever THAT means!

 

[Jive Turkey]

Well, I certainly can't deny what you have observed. This is obviously a success story - and I'm certain there are others. I think you have certainly demonstrated that gay adoption can succeed, but I am still not convinced that it is a child's best chance for success if equally qualified heterosexual couples are available.

YouTube - My Two Dads TV Theme Song

 

[VintagePunk]

The image needs to be bigger.

Us old people can't read that small print.

Heh. Sorry. Thanks for reposting for me!

 

[nathan1977]

I think JiveTurkey's post of "My Two Dads" proves my point better than anything I could say...

Greg Evigan's hair! *shudder*

 

[BVS]

You mean besides helping girls deal with their sexual development? Ditto for boys?

Just off the top of my head....

Yes because all of those hetero couples who are just saying "abstain" and are too scared to talk about sexual development with their children are doing a bang up job. I wonder if Palin did a better job than the two dads?

 

[diamond]

And I think diamond is probably less conservative than he wants us to believe- or maybe it's just <> that's conservative and his other identity diamond swings from chandeliers. He boxes it off into two so he can live in both worlds

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