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clearly, in the 1960s, the only legitimate way for blacks to have entered the University of Alabama would have been if the voters of the state of Alabama had voted to allow those 5 students to enter. blacks should only have the rights that white people agree upon and have voted on and can thusly give to them on Christmas morning wrapped up with a bow and a nice little note thanking them for their request, and this is what customer service was able to do. |
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affirmative action gave the Republicans Colin Powell -- they get to point to him as an example of why they're not racist.
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I voted no on Prop 8 in CA because I have no problem with gays getting married. But I stand with all the gay people and gay supporters in Washington State that put 'Civil Unions' on the ballot this last election and won their rights for equal protection. The "everything but the word marriage" was put on the ballot in Washington by gay rights supporters because they wanted 'equal rights' and 'equal protection'. The ballot was not sponsored or supported by 'anti- gay' groups. Sure, we have a handfull of places were gay 'marriage' can win, but it appears only to be a few places. With initiatives like the one in Washington other states will flip. I really believe CA and Maines losing margins were close enough that by just leaving out the word 'marriage' gays would have won their rights by a popular vote, just like what happened in Washington. That would be much better to have a record like 6 wins and 28 loses, win the most recent elections being 'wins' instead of losses. Right now the record is something like 1 win and 33 loses? and what won at the ballot? Equal rights and protections for gays by a popular vote! Under the term, "Unions". The best way to win an argument? Is to frame it in away most likely to win! Once 'unions' are law. Gays will be able to get married and have all the same rights and benefits of 'marriage' as everyone else. |
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Would you have voted against Civil Unions in Washington State?
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Not at all, but that's not the point.
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I support equal rights, including calling it marriage. I do agree with deep on a strategy level, that with the defacto rights in force, the term marriage will follow. However, it's not up to me to strategize and I understand why calling it anything less than marriage is discriminatory, so I defer to the judgment of those making the call. I think it's a harder road but a better destination.
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However, I doubt that it would get you much farther than you are now. You're right that those two states, CA and ME may have flipped...but the states that are hostile to the idea of equal rights for gays and lesbians (ie. most of your country) would not budge for unions either. The thing that will defeat the anti-gay marriage crowd at the ballot will be time. In my view, they probably have about 20 years to go at most in a great number of states. There are some that will likely take longer, however. |
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Which part of that is confusing for you?
No one has been called a bigot for saying they would vote for civil unions in Washington State, and we all know that you know what trolling is. |
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Plenty of times people who have said that they're ok with Civil Unions for gay people instead of Gay Marriage are labeled bigots. <> |
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No, they're called bigots for the reasons behind not wanting to extend marriage to gays.
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Silly me thanks for the clarification, benevolent one.
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