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Old 05-24-2009, 11:53 PM   #461
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of course, the legalization of same-sex marriage would simplify all this.

But making your relationship have the same name as mine, even though it's the same relationship, would bring on the downfall of mankind.

Come on.
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Old 05-25-2009, 07:43 AM   #462
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What constitutes a "partner" ?

(i mean, the standard to receive benefits?)
This is a really simple matter, usually it's defined in the family law statute that governs in your state. So common-law partners (of the hetero persuasion) fall into that category, and expanding it to include same-sex partners would be just a formality.

Generally it's cohabiting in a conjugal relationship for some period of time (a year or two is most common; I think in NZ it's three before you get property sharing), or being in a relationship of some permanence while having/raising children together, etc.
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Good enough. Thanks !
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:22 PM   #464
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But making your relationship have the same name as mine, even though it's the same relationship, would bring on the downfall of mankind.

Come on.

one does wonder why we would go to all the trouble to create domestic partnership laws in the first place.

i mean other than to continue to reinforce the message to the gays that they're not as good as you are.
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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - California high court upholds gay marriage ban but allows existing same-sex marriages to stand.
no surprise here
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no surprise here
but NH's rejection of the legislation was.
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but NH's rejection of the legislation was.
did N H reject or is it just delayed?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us...ge.html?ref=us
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but NH's rejection of the legislation was.


you realize why, though.

agreed that, here, no surprises. at least the 18,000 marriages will remain.
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you realize why, though.
And I absolutely agree with the reason, set forth by Obama himself as far as conscience clauses go.

I'm reading the decision right now. Fascinating.
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I agree
I don't think the state can or should regulate bigotry in religion

it would be the end of religion
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of course, the legalization of same-sex marriage would simplify all this.
or Domestic Parnerships.



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I agree
I don't think the state can or should regulate bigotry in religion

it would be the end of religion

as an aside, and it probably should be another thread, what do we think of parents who deny their children chemo on the basis of religious objections?
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that is child endangerment,

if an adult chooses to forgo medical treatment, that is their choice

an adult can not choose to let his child drink alcohol or use tobacco.
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It depends on whether the child is of the same persuasion as the parent. If so, then the question becomes whether the child has the capacity to make medical decisions for him or herself and whether the child is able to fully appreciate and understand the consequences of the choice (this will depend on factors such as age, maturity and so on).
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an adult can not choose to let his child drink alcohol or use tobacco.



We can't?

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We can't?

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I thought there was a blanket prohibition except if you really want to for religious reasons, but a Google search suggests it's legal in 31 states to provide alcohol to your own children.

edit- that might have been what anitram meant by "persuasion"
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edit- that might have been what anitram meant by "persuasion"
No, I was talking about children refusing life saving treatment (like chemo).
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