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Old 04-23-2007, 12:36 PM   #1
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Dosent this make you want to be a Criminal in Austria??

Man look at all the luxury they get. Sure you wont see the outside world for a while, but man this looks nice.


This is BS. They do not deserve to have this kind of living in Prison.

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Old 04-23-2007, 12:41 PM   #2
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Wow! Infinitely nicer than my dorm and any rental so far, but I guess if their aim is rehabilitation, why not?
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who'd want to be rehabilitated if you were living in there? looks like a spa and a whole lot nicer than most people live.
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Re: Dosent this make you want to be a Criminal in Austria??

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This is BS. They do not deserve to have this kind of living in Prison.

What kind of prison is it? Why would we not want to rehabilitate these people? Are we to deny them means to stay fit and healthy?
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Old 04-23-2007, 01:05 PM   #6
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What kind of prison is it? Why would we not want to rehabilitate these people? Are we to deny them means to stay fit and healthy?
Do you really think rehab would work?? Whats the percentage of people that return to prison? The main rehab people in prison always seem to bring up, is Jesus.
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Old 04-23-2007, 01:33 PM   #7
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Do you really think rehab would work?? Whats the percentage of people that return to prison?
I don't know about there, but if you're going with the attitude rehab doesn't work then why not all life terms.

Now answer the rest of the questions?
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Do you really think rehab would work?? Whats the percentage of people that return to prison? The main rehab people in prison always seem to bring up, is Jesus.

Well, when you look at the fact that a large majority of people in prison will eventually be back out among society one day, how can focusing on rehab be bad?

With most prisons focusing on punishment over rehabilitation, they are sending some really damaged people back out into the community. And by damaged, I mean coming out of prison psychologically worse off then when they went in.

Who would you rather have living in your neighborhood...an angry, bitter parolee with no life skills who feels society doesn't give a shit about him or someone who spent his prison term at least attempting to become a better person and who may actually feel hopeful enough to stay out of trouble?
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You can't keep a junkie in prison for life, because it does not warrent him being in prison for life. Those who deserve to be in prison for life (yes I dare say it) murderers, rapists, Child Sexual Predators.
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Well, when you look at the fact that a large majority of people in prison will eventually be back out among society one day, how can focusing on rehab be bad?

With most prisons focusing on punishment over rehabilitation, they are sending some really damaged people back out into the community. And by damaged, I mean coming out of prison psychologically worse off then when they went in.

Who would you rather have living in your neighborhood...an angry, bitter parolee with no life skills who feels society doesn't give a shit about him or someone who spent his prison term at least attempting to become a better person and who may actually feel hopeful enough to stay out of trouble?
But when some one is sent to prison they come out worse that when they went in. Due to Gang activity or knowing it will be difficult to find a steady job once release and having a record.
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But when some one is sent to prison they come out worse that when they went in. Due to Gang activity or knowing it will be difficult to find a steady job once release and having a record.
What is this based on? Hollywood movies?

What kind of gangs do they have in Austria?

I don't think you quite grasp the concept of rehab...
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While it is nice, it IS still a prison. The main idea of prison is that your choices are limited by your location.
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But when some one is sent to prison they come out worse that when they went in. Due to Gang activity or knowing it will be difficult to find a steady job once release and having a record.
Wow. Great job there Justin in painting everyone with the same brush. So you know for a fact that in each and every case the prisoner leaves prison worse than when they entered it?

Then there's no hope for anyone if they're sent to prison—you might as well kill yourself if convicted of a crime!
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What is this based on? Hollywood movies?

What kind of gangs do they have in Austria?

I don't think you quite grasp the concept of rehab...
So what Prisons (in the US) dont have MS13, Blood, Crips, Latin Kings, Neo-Nazi's, 18th street gang, Mexican Mafia???? All Hollywood, please.

I am sure they have skin head gangs, communist gangs and other gangs.

What is the percentage rate of a person who succesfully became rehabilitated in Prison?
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While it is nice, it IS still a prison. The main idea of prison is that your choices are limited by your location.
Exactly. Even in the poshest of prisons human nature is such that eventually these prisoners will be yearning for the freedom to move around.
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My father worked with a contracting company that employed a lot of rehabilitated criminals. My father, much to his suprise(for he was a lot like you Justin), said these guys were the hardest working, trustworthy, and humble guys he's seen on a construction site in a long time.
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Wow. Great job there Justin in painting everyone with the same brush. So you know for a fact that in each and every case the prisoner leaves prison worse than when they entered it?

Then there's no hope for anyone if they're sent to prison—you might as well kill yourself if convicted of a crime!
I did not say there is no hope, but it's slim. You really think prison is a nice place to be were you have mentors who say, come here buddy how would you like to be rehabilitated in 6 months??? No you have people trying to recruit you to join in a prison gang or others trying to kill you because you might be the weak one they see in a pack of fresh meat.
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communist gangs and other gangs.
Communist gangs?
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