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To be a patriot is a good thing , but to be a slave of dirty lies and disinformation is much worse case .
__________________Sing about how good is your country , people , flag , soul etc is one and very good thing . but to make cd's and fame on 9/11 theme and make money about it , compose songs with lyrics full of hate against different races , people and countries , that's not right . |
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"New York, New York" by Ryan Adams...?
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I think patriotic songs or hymns were very useful in olden days when soldiers were forced to line up for field battles, fighting with swords, bayonets or muskets... but back then was intended to raise the spirits of men who were facing attrition and almost certain death -- this was not intended for selling records or for wide-spread propoganda, this was about trying to keep your troops going in the final hour, making them at least feel for a minute that they weren't dying for nothing
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It's a shame that this thread has now been taken away from Bubba. |
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oh, im sorry speedracer.
btw, he contacted me via the messenger thing here, and all is all. speedracer, again, do not start anything here with me, UNLESS you want to talk about the topic at hand. you can question my opinions but do not question my intellect. |
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Well, if this thread is censored, I may as well write a private message to Bubba.
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I questioned neither your opinions nor your intellect. All I said was that your tirade resulted in the mods taking Bubba's thread away from him. Do you deny this? |
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-Why is it you lash out at Bubba? Why is it you predictably put the blame on Americans? -Osama is responisible for the deaths of his countrymen by his actions in our country. You may have had an argument if we went to Afganistan unprovoked..we didnt. Same w Saddam -Heres a fellow who beheads members of his own family -Butchers his own ppl w nerve gas -Has his countrymen killed at will, those that oppose him.. but ITS OK for him to have nukes..riiiiiiigt ![]() and you.. go around making threads drawing correlations between Bush/Hitler.. Bear, where is your head? Your fasination w Nazis and WWII also is odd. Many of us are here are concerned for you Bear.. Leave Bubba alone ![]() Peace- -diamond- ![]() |
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Well, Bear, I am not concerned...
![]() Hey Diamond! Why are you concerned? Ummm... and whatīs your opinion on the theme of this thread? And can someone tell me why Bubba hasnīt answered my PM yet? |
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Re: Bear-Help us understand..
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Imagine if America attacks Iraq. Say they kill another five thousand innocent people, most likely even more than that. Would Bush then be to blame if American citizens were hurt in any retaliation from Iraq? After all, they wouldn't be acting unprovoked either... |
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Re: Re: Bear-Help us understand..
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Was it because The Taliban/AlQueda -those murderers were there? Those ppl who guard the coward Osama were there? or Did America just do it for fun? ![]() Help us w the correct answer.. Yes they bombed Afganistan ![]() Why? America was provoked? Will America help the victims, eventually victims of the bombing campagns..history indicates we will ![]() Will Osama help the innocent of 9/11? I doubt it. No I dont think Bush will b the blame if Iraq retaliates.. Saddam hasnt complied w the UN Sauntions as he agreed to.. You may wanna blame GW tho ![]() I keep forgetting what a bastard country the USA is ![]() I keep forgetting of all the blessings we have of free speech ![]() Keep forgetting how we can sing/dance/converse/pray here..FREELY What a f#cked up country the USA is ![]() Thx for reminding me Fizzing- -diamond- ![]() ![]() |
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They bombed Afghanistan because they wanted to kill members of Al Qaeda and prevent the organisation from operating anymore. Like I said in the previous post - you can debate about whether they were right to use military force, whether it was successful, but surely you can't debate about whether the thousands of people killed were killed as a result of American military action. Quote:
But you just said Osama bin Laden was responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Afghanistan because he provoked the United States. Why the double standard when the US itself is the initial aggressor? Quote:
You know what other country hasn't complied with UN resolutions? Israel. Of course Israel gets $3.5billion in US aid each year despite that. Iraq gets devastating sanctions, frequent air strikes and the threat of a massive war. Also - it seems that sometimes it's the people who are most critical of the United Nations who are first to use the fact that Iraq violates UN resolutions as a justification for attack. (I'm not necessarily saying you've argued this, diamond, it was just a general observation.) Quote:
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haha diamond, a few people are concerned for ME? after all the stuff you post, you dont think the same could be said about yourself?
history is knowledge. i was insanely obsessed with the roman empire and everything about it about 7 years ago. why does that concern you? because i see similiarities between one group and the other and i post about them makes me "odd?" look diamond, and the others... if the us so desperately wants to take out ALL terrorism, when are they gonna go after china? huh? they have no human rights, theyre a "communist" country. when are they gonna take out the terror in cyprus? the turks invaded north cyprus in the 70's, and when the greeks begged for help, they were turned away. why? cause the us has no interests there. it all comes down to the us being unable to present any or sufficent evidence that they are in fact a force to be dreaded. and to be honest, the outside world would DEFINATELY see the us as being the aggressor if a war would begin. *can hardly wait for the war to begin and see his gas prices soar above a dollar a litre |
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In the meantime (I didnīt know it either) Cyprus has become a very interesting place, also for U.S. agents and diplomacy from all over the world. It seems that Turkey produces/ imports/ exports incredibly much opium, shipped to Sicily where Mafia got the laboratories to make heroine out of raw opium. Then transported to the European markets (f.e. one stop is a turkish EMBASSY, the author says - can you believe that). And everyone who takes part in this little game makes a load of cash, shhhhh!!! It is a very interesting book I am reading. Narcoterrorism et al. You know, the weapons for drugs - deals. |
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Saddam helped fund Osama. Bear- Ppl pay money to post some of these things u sexy ![]() ![]() Oh sorry about your friend Cyprus too... ![]() DB9 |
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