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View Poll Results: Is Demonic Possession real or group hysteria? | |||
Absolutely real |
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10 | 18.87% |
Probably real |
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2 | 3.77% |
It's real, but you have to invite evil influences into your life |
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8 | 15.09% |
No, not real; anyone claiming this is a mental case. |
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28 | 52.83% |
There is a good force and a bad force in our universe-a person has to decide which force they choose to serve |
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2 | 3.77% |
diamondbruno#9, do you have your own church and gospel? |
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3 | 5.66% |
diamond you always make the best threads; cutting edge, pushing the intellectual and religious envelope; Bravo |
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6 | 11.32% |
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll |
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More and more empirical evidence surfaces each day. Demonic possession is real, the same with mental illness; sometimes people have both. Spiritual denial trumps all of them though, but God allows this, it's part of His plan. He wont intercede into man exercising their own free will; unless you ask him-and if it's his will he will incercede to give a person guidance, protection or personal revelation. In the meantime keep on continuing to search for your "missing link" and when you come up empty-we'll still be here. ![]() God bless. ![]() dbs |
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I think China,India and Brazil together hit 3 billion+. |
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my point is the afterlife place is much larger than earth right now when you take into the account of the total human race living here since it's creation. dbs |
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I just find it really hard to believe there is some sort of afterlife or paradise after death, it most certainly wouldnt be my idea of paradise sharing a room with Hitler or the boy that stole my apple when i was 4.
So in your idea of Paradise are their pets there ? buildings ? what time zone is it ? what is the weather like ? does time exist ? can i travel by plane to get to destinations ? is it like a dream ? is it even like the Matrix ? So many questions. |
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Hilter and an innocent child would be in 2 different spheres. It's more like the matrix. One language is employed and it's done usually telepathically. Pets often times greet their owners once they arrive. Time doesot exist at all, nor does competition nor class envy or struggle; it's paradise. You travel by thinking where you want to go and there is an order there, it's not chaotic. If it's God's will you're allowed to assist close friends and relatives who are grieving your loss who are still living on Earth. That's all I have right now. dbs |
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Can you explain the subjective experience of sensation (opposed to the objective sensing of a thermometer or photocell) using only the materialistic laws of chemistry and physics. Define free will mathematically as either compulsive "law" or "random" illogicalness. Explain why a computer can be built to reason but that it could never understand as a man can. Write a moral code without eternal absolute standards. And finally can you demystify how this all came about, how unconsciousness evolved into self-consciousness. Don't get me wrong, science should be materialistic in it's approach, but maybe scientific truth is not the whole truth. Maybe free will and rational intellect are spiritual faculties...the soul of a man |
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Out of curosity, Hitler loved pets so would his pets join him in this other sphere ? Im fascinated by this afterlife stuff, i loved reading about it when i studied the Egyptians and Vikings a few years back. |
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in hellish spheres you recognize no one, are tormented there. Interestingly also from the experiences that I've read about, there are no children in the hellish spheres (children can't sin) and I don't think you'd find your pets there-since you don't recognize any friends or family or loved ones. dbs |
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In England a few years ago a kid called James Bulger was murdered by two 10 year olds, he was savaegly beaten. Before they left him, the boys laid Bulger across the railway tracks and weighted his head down with rubble, in hopes that a passing train would hit him and make his death appear to be an accident. That sounds like a sin to me. How about those who have a mental age of a child, would those be counted as children ? |
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Only God would know who has reached an age of accountablity.
And only God knows the whole story; how these 10 year olds were raised etc. I remember hearing about that story and others like that; it makes one weep inside. dbs |
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As for Diamond's thread, I do believe in a spiritual side. I've personally encountered too many things that as a scientist, I cannot explain. This doesn't have me running for God as the explanation, but it does allow me to consider that there is a higher power and that we may exist in another form other than our presence on earth. Again, not saying I believe it, but I am open to the possibility. :-)
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I'm pleased that only half of the respondents in the poll disagree with me. Several notable, credible scientists have came forward and aligned their views similar to yours. And that doesn't dismiss the idea and theory of evolution either; essentially the consenus is that both exist and the scripture shouldn't be taken as literal in some places where fundementalists insist that it should be. Moreover the majority of Drs and Hospice workers all agree that there is something tanagible and real beyond this life and there are good and evil spheres. It's in a whole different demension and right now we're more or less living in a very rudimentary existence compared to where we're headed. Some of the best books of the existence of the After Life are: Dr Raymond Moody's "Life After Life" Dr George Ritchie's "Return from Tomorrow" Mary Eadie's "Embraced By The Light". |
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Majority opinion is for politics, not science, the facts speak for themselves; consciousness is rooted in a functioning brain - when the brain ceases to function consciousness ends.
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The advantage of inexistence is that nobody can feel disappointed.
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Just out of curiosity, for those who actually profess to be Christian, yet voted that they do not believe in demon possession, how do you rationalize what occurred in the times of Jesus? Demon possession was apparently rather common then. I can understand perfectly how an atheist or agnostic can believe all of this is crap, but I'm a bit surprised by the amount of believers who brush it off as well.
Honestly, I've never seen anyone with my own eyes who were supposedly possessed, so I don't feel the same gravity of this as those who have, but I've heard some things that I couldn't explain. Voting in this one is a bit tough. |
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Fish to mammal? If that's it, I saw a special on PBS about it and it blew my fucking mind. That link is filling up fast. Once you see it displayed so elegantly, it's astonishingly clear. There was also a recent episode about the winged dinosaur. Microraptor? Amazing. I don't think this destroys a creation model altogether but it sure does decimate standard literal dogma. |
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