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Old 02-22-2002, 08:32 PM   #21
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Is it just me, or has the number of military accidents really increased in the last few years?

Agreed.. I know that I never was really deeply involved in the news of the wars and conflicts of the past, but I don't remember as many accidents, At least they scrapped the osprey (right?).. but Damn.. that would have been sweet..

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Old 02-22-2002, 08:35 PM   #22
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You know, I think.. once everything has calmed down, all the emotions have settled, I'm not so sure it'd be a bad idea to actually show this video on the Prime Time NEws, I mean seriously, all those people who are claiming we're being too mean to these very nice detainees down in Cuba, who are against the War on Terrorism, and who are Denouncing his Axis of Evil Statement (bush's), This would be a nice kick in teh ass to remind them how shitty these people are and teh reason why they need to be exterminated.

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Whoooooooh nellie, baaaaaaaaaad idea!

Out of respect for Mr. Pearl's family, wife,etc. I say hell no!

This is a prime example of why I 've been saying that there are some things we don't need to know (or in this case see) and some things we need to take the government's word on. Yet in this world of cynicism and general distrust of elected officials, this might be a fine example of something that would "shock" the people back into supporting their government, or for those overseas into supporting this cause (and assuming they are in the coalition too). And too, the video would prove that it is not some "misinformation" created by the Office of Strategic Influence.

Still, I refer back to my original point, no way should this come out for respect to him and his family.

And the worthless, souless bastards that committed this crime should be dealt with on the spot.

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Old 02-23-2002, 02:22 AM   #23
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Whoooooooh nellie, baaaaaaaaaad idea!

Out of respect for Mr. Pearl's family, wife,etc. I say hell no!

I agree about the respects to the family, and in the end that is what should win out, but I's jsut throwing it out as an Idea, I mean, I think it would shut up a lot of people who are shitting on the whole current situation at the moment here in America, and abroad..It wouldn't be anything anyone would want to see, but It would almost seem necessary for a select group.. Especially Bill Maher... BUt Yah, I agree Z.. It'd not be the best, wholly in respects for the family.

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Very very sad.

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Old 02-23-2002, 01:41 PM   #25
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It sounds like the video is pretty gruesome and I don't want to see it. I believe the Journal's managing editor has seen it yet there has been no mention of it to any of us.

On another note, Danny's wife Mariane released a statement about his death. Here is an excerpt from it that I thought you would all be interested in.

"Danny's principles were steadfast: He never accepted an opinion at face value nor submitted to those who tried to silence or pressure him, regardless of their power or nationality. All of this can be seen in the work he has produced over the last 12 years as a reporter for the Wall Street Journal. A video has been produced of him forced to read a statement and then showing him dead and stabbed in the most cruel and cowardly manner.

"From this act of barbarism, terrorists expect all of us to bow our heads and retreat as victims forever threatened by their ruthlessness. What terrorists forget is that they may seize the life of an innocent man or the lives of many innocent people as they did on Sept. 11, but they cannot claim the spirit or faith of individual human beings.

"The terrorists who say they killed my husband may have taken his life, but they did not take his spirit. Danny is my life. They may have taken my life, but they did not take my spirit.

"I promise you that the terrorists did not defeat my husband no matter what they did to him, nor did they succeed in seizing his dignity or value as a human being. As his wife, I feel proud of Danny. I trust that our struggle will ultimately serve the greater purpose of resisting those evil people casting a shadow upon our world. This responsibility rests with each one of us no matter our age, our gender, our nationality, our religion. No individual alone will be able to fight terrorism. No state alone will be able to wage this battle. We need to overcome cultural and religious differences, motivating our governments to work hand in hand with each other, perhaps in an unprecedented way."
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It's weird. Up until I heard the bulletin I really thought he was alive. I thought that they wouldn't kill him too. I figured they kidnapped a reporter to get their views across. It was a deep blow to me when I heard of his death.

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How exactly does this justify George Bush labeling Iran, North Korea, and Iraq as an 'Axis of Evil'.
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Sleep
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If the thunder cloud
Passes rain
So let it rain
Rain down on him
So let it be
So let it be


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I have to say that I can not stop thinking about this since it happened, as I'm sure most of you are saddened and sicked by these events too.

The thing that bothers me though - is that it does not seems to have effected too many people the way I would expect it too. I dont mean just on the boards, I mean in general. It just seems to me that a lot of people dont realize that these are the same bastards that flew the plains into the WTC - taking the life of an innocent man (in an extremely gruesome fashion)without the slightest sense of remorse. I know that people need to move on in a sense and go on with life as normal as they can... but I worry that people are starting to get comfortable, or in a sense forget the tragedies that have occurred over the last 5 months. I'm not trying to offend anyone with this post or anything, believe me. I just wish that i personally had seen more of a response to this that what I have....

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I have to say that I can not stop thinking about this since it happened, as I'm sure most of you are saddened and sicked by these events too.

The thing that bothers me though - is that it does not seems to have effected too many people the way I would expect it too. I dont mean just on the boards, I mean in general. It just seems to me that a lot of people dont realize that these are the same bastards that flew the plains into the WTC - taking the life of an innocent man (in an extremely gruesome fashion)without the slightest sense of remorse. I know that people need to move on in a sense and go on with life as normal as they can... but I worry that people are starting to get comfortable, or in a sense forget the tragedies that have occurred over the last 5 months. I'm not trying to offend anyone with this post or anything, believe me. I just wish that i personally had seen more of a response to this that what I have....

You know, I actually take the complete opposite position as you, I think there's been a change in how the media is portraying this war, and more specifically our enemies in this war.. Like I said above, I think that this one death has convinced that these terrorists (Johnny Walker included) are bad people, and our WAR on Terrorism is serious.

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"The terrorists who say they killed my husband may have taken his life, but they did not take his spirit. Danny is my life. They may have taken my life, but they did not take my spirit.

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I just wanted to say that she is a very strong woman, and GOD Bless her.

That is an unbelieveably strong statement, all of it, and she is courageous and shows her true spirit is still alive to be able to make this statement under the circumstances.

She is an inspiration to all

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Old 02-25-2002, 01:07 AM   #32
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The guy who set-up the kidnapping is behind bars, which is a great thing. However, this piece of trash was behind bars already! He was freed in exchange for a plane load of passengers in a high jacking agreement. Guess what he was behind bars for orginally...yup, kidnapping. So, what do we do with this guy? In my humble opinion, this guy needs the chair and he needs it quick. Juice him up. The longer he's alive and in custody, the more time that gives some of his crazies to plan some kind of terrorist attack to get him out of prison. This guy needs to go to Allah and he needs to go now.
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i have that whole speech posted above my desk. and i agree wholeheartedly.

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The worst part is that there's a good chance the group who did this will never be caught... but if they are, they'll never get out of this situation in one piece.
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as if this hasn't been gut wrenching to begin with, authorities believe copies of the tape may soon be available for sale in Pakistani video shops. They believe the kidnappers made several copies and will try to put them in circulation.
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as if this hasn't been gut wrenching to begin with, authorities believe copies of the tape may soon be available for sale in Pakistani video shops. They believe the kidnappers made several copies and will try to put them in circulation.
OK.. Now things have changed.. Apparently Connie Chung Has Viewed this Video Tape.. NOW I want to See it... The media has an obligation to to show this to America (It's never stopped them before in releasing man other things).. To help us understand Just who these people are, just how evil they can be, and At least give an example of how Islam.. a religion we are taught in school that has the same god as we.. Who are a Peaceful Religious sect... And who are just Misunderstood by us... The media has an obligation to now show us These people and this act of barbarism that Harks back to the Seventeen Hundreds...

Name One Christian or Jew who recently beheaded one of their Enemies in the name of God?

This just makes me Sick.

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not recently but, christian, Jeffrey Dahmer? Jewish, David Berkowitz or Son of Sam?
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Why is this an Islamicthing. If I recall the group he represents were only asking for the return of sovreignty to Pakistan. The airplanes that they paid the U.S for but never received and that Pakistan prisoners and the Taliban Ambassador to be return and tried in Pakistan.

When someone kills some kills someone in the U.S for example

"not recently but, christian, Jeffrey Dahmer? Jewish, David Berkowitz or Son of Sam"

were the religion of these people attacked as such
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