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Iran: Hitler was a Jew


Advisor to President Ahmadinejad claims Nazi leader was Jew who conspired with USSR and Britain to establish Jewish state

Dudi Goldman Published: 01.02.07, 09:50





Just when you thought the Iranian leadership could stoop no further: A top advisor to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad claimed in an interview with Iranian website Baztab that Nazi leader Adolf Hitler's parents were both Jewish and that Hitler himself was one of the founders of the State of Israel.




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In the interview, translated by MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute) Mohammad-Ali Ramin, a chief aide to Ahmadinejad, told Baztab that Hitler's paternal grandmother was a Jewish prostitute and his father even kept his Jewish name until finally changing it to Hitler when he was 40.



Ramin also claimed that the reason Hitler developed such an aversion to Judaism was because his Jewish mother was a promiscuous woman. Hitler therefore, says Ramin, tried to escape his religion.
Ramin cites a 1974 book by Hennecke Kardel titled 'Adolf Hitler: Founder of Israel', which alleges that Hitler strived to create a Jewish state as a result of being influenced by his Jewish relatives and his cooperation with Britain – which also wanted to drive the Jews out of Europe.

Ramin claims in the interview that Hitler both identified with his Judaism and was disgusted by it. It is these ambivalent feelings, said Ramin, that formed the basis for his treatment of Jews.

According to Ramin on the one hand Hitler's relatives and the friends who brought him to power, as well as his mistresses and personal physician, were all Jewish.
On the other hand he welcomed the expulsion of ambitious and influential Jews from Europe to the British Mandate of Palestine.

Itamar Eichner contributed to this report
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Unsurprising from a man who as mayor made sure that streets would be wide enough for the day when the Madhi returned with Jesus. Thankfully in that last election his nuts didn't get the votes and the other puppets of the clerics did.
 
Why are we so obsessed with what he says? Do you know that he essentially has no political power whatsoever in Iran? It is run by the clerics and he's there for show. If the president of Iran had any tangible say in what goes on in that country with respect to its domestic or foreign policy, then the West would have engaged Khatami who was very moderate and by Iranian standards practically secular (I jest but you get the point). But they did not because it would have been utterly pointless since he is a figurehead and not much more.
 
But if he has not political power and he is being controlled by the clerics who do have the power then he is saying what there saying and wants to destroy israel or the US.
 
Who says he's being controlled by them?

They have their own agenda.
 
He is one of them. He is being controlled by the clerics in that sense of the word "control". No, he's not a cleric, but he has the mindset of one. That's what I mean.
 
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Yeah well the same could be said about Hitler,a fanatic who rose to power.
 
Hitler came to power under a totally different system than is in Iran.

You can't always compare something with Hitler.
 
Until Mahmoud Ahmadinejad kills millions and millions of people, he ain't Hitler. :|

Anitram, excellent points about Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.:up:
 
But so many of you say this and in the end when it happens you say I knew he was always like that and this would happen.
 
I just wanted to say that there is a difference in the way Hitler came to power, and the power Ahmadinejad actually has.

The constition of the Weimar Republic was democratic, but also had some "mistakes" Hitler exploited to become the Chancellor. Then he could overthrow the democratic system and enter into a dictatorship.

Ahmadinejad may be President, but behind him there is a very powerful system that actually makes the decisions.
So the ways both of them came to power may be similar, they got elected, but that's all.
 
Justin24 said:
But so many of you say this and in the end when it happens you say I knew he was always like that and this would happen.
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Uh... how about not putting words into other peoples' mouths? Anitram has a very legitimate point, and fabricating our position for us isn't quite the appropriate way to answer that.

Is it possible Ahmadinejad may one day rise to power? Sure, lots of things are possible. But he is not in power, and as Vincent has so clearly pointed out, the structure is not there to make a Hitler comparison.
 
Whatever the state of Ahmedinejad's mind the sharing of nuclear weapon technology among Islamic countries and the reestablishment of those networks raises the risks of nuclear exchanges exponentially.

Iran itself may have leaders with some sense of self preservation but it could usher in a period of hyperproliferation; Saudi Arabia and Egypt are already taking steps in that direction to counter Iran.
 
A_Wanderer said:
Whatever the state of Ahmedinejad's mind the sharing of nuclear weapon technology among Islamic countries and the reestablishment of those networks raises the risks of nuclear exchanges exponentially.

Iran itself may have leaders with some sense of self preservation but it could usher in a period of hyperproliferation; Saudi Arabia and Egypt are already taking steps in that direction to counter Iran.
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Why is it ok for the US, the UK, France, Israel, etc, to have nukes, and not ok for Iran (a country that has never invaded anyone) to have them?

I ask the question purely out of interest - I have no idea whether or not Iran is indeed seeking to possess nukes - but assuming for the sake of argument that it were, a CIA report has concluded that it would take them until 2016 to develop their first operational weapon.
 
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There is nothing wrong with the nation of Iran having nuclear weapons, there is something very wrong with Mullahs having weapons.
 
At least one of Iran's neighbors--Turkey--is not happy with the idea of it having nuclear weapons. When I was in Turkey I heard alot of complaints about a nuclear Iran. The relationship between Ankara and Terhan is a frosty one, to say the least.
 
Vincent Vega said:
Hitler came to power under a totally different system than is in Iran.

You can't always compare something with Hitler.
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Exactly. Iran is run by the clerics, and Ahmadinejad is their current bimbo figurehead. He's not "in" with the clerics at all besides fronting the Iranian government, and there have been recent reports that he may be on his way out because of his stupid remarks raising international ire.
 
There are factions within the political establishment, Ahmedinejad is the very public face of one that views the return of the occulted as a reality - his actions and statements over the years are consistent with that.
 
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