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Old 07-12-2007, 02:28 PM   #1
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Conservapedia- because Wikipedia is a liberal conspiracy!

Check this out, it's a special conservative wikipedia to counteract the evil liberal conspiracy that is Wikipedia! Here the world is only 6000 years old! You're going to get a kick out of this

http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page
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There was an article in the paper about this a few weeks ago. It's really hilarious. The guy who started this got pissed when he finally noticed that many scholars use BCE for BC and CE for AD when talking about the dates of historical events. My question was what the hell was he doing all through college?! Even 20 odd years ago, when I was in college, this was becoming common. In fact, the lecture and exhibit I attended on the Dead Sea Scrolls used this dating style.

Ah, intellectuals. They'll ruin all that's good and ignorant.
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For the record, we have already had a thread about this, but since that was months ago I'll leave this as is.
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this is amazing:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Gay
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this is amazing:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Gay
that is hate

hate the sin

so happy I found Jesus

won't have to deal with any grubby Jews
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We still say "Before Christ" and "After Christ" (literally translated) and no one cares.
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I've been blasted for using CE and BCE in articles. Never mind. I'll keep on using them.
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I've been blasted for using CE and BCE in articles. Never mind. I'll keep on using them.
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Oddly enough, I learned that CE ("Christian Era") and BCE ("Before Christian Era") first existed...in my high school religion classes. We were taught that A.D. and B.C. were specifically offensive to Jews.

It should be remembered that the Gregorian Calendar was a creation of the Catholic Church, yes, but it was meant solely for the secular purpose of correcting the grossly flawed Julian Calendar.
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BCE can also mean Before Common Era. That's what the man said Monday night.
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BCE can also mean Before Common Era. That's what the man said Monday night.
Actually, I think you're right. I now remember being taught that originally. I didn't specifically remember what they stood for, and some Christian probably vandalized Wikipedia because they hate the terms...heh.
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It isn't "after Christ", though - that would make it seem post-religious and then people probably would care. I would say that "After Christ" and "In the Year of Our Lord" are quite different.

I interchange between BC/AD and BCE/CE commonly, I don't like the blatantly Christian former, but I don't really like the supposed attempt of political correctness of the latter. I guess I can't be pleased.
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It isn't "after Christ", though - that would make it seem post-religious and then people probably would care. I would say that "After Christ" and "In the Year of Our Lord" are quite different.
As the poster's location is given as Berlin, I suspect they were referring to the literal English translation of what is used in German.

Regarding the topic itself, I don't think I even encountered BCE/CE until I was about 16 - and I come from a secular, non-religious New Zealand background! I only use BC/AD as I find BCE/CE to be a pointless cop-out. It's like saying "fudge" for "fuck". I say "fuck" and I use BC/AD.
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1 Corinthians 6:9 - Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,

oh em gee! what friggin translation has the word homosexuals? that's just absurd.
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oh em gee! what friggin translation has the word homosexuals? that's just absurd.
If I had to guess, the NIV: the translation that proclaims 99.9% accuracy, and the translation that credible Biblical scholars think is the most riddled with mistranslations. The NIV, in particular, is notorious for taking an ambiguous verse, applying the traditional misinterpretation, and then amplifying it. This verse in 1 Corinthians would be an example of that.
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It isn't "after Christ", though - that would make it seem post-religious and then people probably would care. I would say that "After Christ" and "In the Year of Our Lord" are quite different.
Indeed. That's why A.D. 0 was intended to be set at the year of Jesus' birth and not His death (traditionally, A.D. 33). And since Jesus isn't "dead," in the theological sense, we're still living with Christ, and, as such, we're in the 2007th "year of the Lord."
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It isn't "after Christ", though - that would make it seem post-religious and then people probably would care. I would say that "After Christ" and "In the Year of Our Lord" are quite different.

I interchange between BC/AD and BCE/CE commonly, I don't like the blatantly Christian former, but I don't really like the supposed attempt of political correctness of the latter. I guess I can't be pleased.
As I said, it was the literal translation in Germany we either say Vor/Nach Christus (Before/After Christ), or Vor/Nach Christi Geburt (Before/After Christ's birth).

Either way, we don't care that this guy called Christ is in it at all. There are more important things we have to deal with.
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Whoops, I didn't see your location! Sorry about that.

On the last line, very true.
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