CNN: Burning Churches in Alabama - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-03-2006, 06:19 PM   #1
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
sue4u2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: hatching some plot, scheming some scheme
Posts: 6,628
Local Time: 07:12 AM
CNN: Burning Churches in Alabama

I'm just hearing about this coming over the wires on CNN.
in Centerville, Alabama.. (This is breaking news) so not alot of details so far
Please don't let this be happening again.. According to CNN It happened in one county so far, and maybe another county.
Excuse me while I cry now..
__________________

sue4u2 is offline  
Old 02-03-2006, 06:21 PM   #2
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
Justin24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: San Mateo
Posts: 6,716
Local Time: 05:12 AM
Bring back memoires of the 60's. Civil Rights movement feeling?
__________________

Justin24 is offline  
Old 02-03-2006, 06:21 PM   #3
Blue Crack Distributor
 
Lila64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ♥Set List Lane♥
Posts: 52,894
Local Time: 05:12 AM
CNN website:

A string of fires scorched churches in central Alabama and investigators are tying to determine if an arsonist is at work, a state official said today. Six fires were reported in two counties between about midnight and 3 a.m. today. Two churches were destroyed, but no one was injured in the blazes. "We're clearly investigating these as arson," said Ragan Ingram, with the Alabama Department of Insurance

Lila64 is offline  
Old 02-03-2006, 06:44 PM   #4
Blue Crack Addict
 
verte76's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: hoping for changes
Posts: 23,331
Local Time: 12:12 PM
The burnings don't seem to be racially motivated because both black and white churches (churches are still pretty damn segregated around here) have been hit.
verte76 is offline  
Old 02-03-2006, 07:23 PM   #5
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
sue4u2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: hatching some plot, scheming some scheme
Posts: 6,628
Local Time: 07:12 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by verte76
The burnings don't seem to be racially motivated because both black and white churches (churches are still pretty damn segregated around here) have been hit.
It only takes one person who thinks that these churches shouldn't be segregated..
But reports are still coming in....
6 mostly white churches have been hit. According to CNN..
sue4u2 is offline  
Old 02-03-2006, 08:16 PM   #6
Blue Crack Addict
 
verte76's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: hoping for changes
Posts: 23,331
Local Time: 12:12 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by sue4u2


It only takes one person who thinks that these churches shouldn't be segregated..
But reports are still coming in....
6 mostly white churches have been hit. According to CNN..
You're right, and there are more mixed congregations now than there used to be when some commentator said the most segregated hour of the week was eleven A.M. on Sundays. I'm not watching the news now............I don't have a TV in my computer room. We're having a hailstorm in Birmingham. Never a dull moment.
verte76 is offline  
Old 02-03-2006, 09:41 PM   #7
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
sue4u2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: hatching some plot, scheming some scheme
Posts: 6,628
Local Time: 07:12 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by verte76

We're having a hailstorm in Birmingham. Never a dull moment.
that sucks.. We're having thick fog in Mobile.

I'm revisiting the Rattle & Hum video..
There is nothing new on the news.. that I saw.?
This computer I am using now is so slow it takes a while to post.
My other hard drive is still out of commisssion..
..crashed in other words
sue4u2 is offline  
Old 02-04-2006, 04:43 PM   #8
Blue Crack Addict
 
nbcrusader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 22,071
Local Time: 04:12 AM
Funny how we look at violence against six Christian churches and start speculating whether there was another motive....
nbcrusader is offline  
Old 02-04-2006, 04:50 PM   #9
Blue Crack Addict
 
verte76's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: hoping for changes
Posts: 23,331
Local Time: 12:12 PM
Actually, all of the churches are Baptist. We think the arsonists have something against the Baptist church.
verte76 is offline  
Old 02-04-2006, 04:52 PM   #10
Acrobat
 
doubleU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 371
Local Time: 06:12 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by nbcrusader
Funny how we look at violence against six Christian churches and start speculating whether there was another motive....
Wouldn't location and history kind of support some of the early speculation?
doubleU is offline  
Old 02-04-2006, 04:54 PM   #11
Blue Crack Addict
 
nbcrusader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 22,071
Local Time: 04:12 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by doubleU
Wouldn't location and history kind of support some of the early speculation?
You mean in a stereotypical way?
nbcrusader is offline  
Old 02-04-2006, 04:57 PM   #12
Acrobat
 
doubleU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 371
Local Time: 06:12 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by nbcrusader


You mean in a stereotypical way?
No, I just mean that this area of the country has had burning of churches that have been racially motivated even up to recent times. But very little chain burnings that have had any other motivations.

That's all I was saying.
doubleU is offline  
Old 02-05-2006, 03:02 PM   #13
Blue Crack Addict
 
verte76's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: hoping for changes
Posts: 23,331
Local Time: 12:12 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by doubleU


Wouldn't location and history kind of support some of the early speculation?
No. There were about 20 black churches bombed in Birmingham between 1945 and 1963. These were all orchestrated by the Ku Klux Klan or someone in cahoots with them. None of these bombings was a positive event, to put it mildly, but the bombing of the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church, in September, 1963, was the biggie; four little girls were killed when the bomb blew up a room in the church. Later that same day, one of the Klansmen in on the job stopped at a filling station. The attendant took one look at the guy and said "Now, this time you guys have really gone too far". He was later arrested, tried, and convicted of the crime. Whew! The church bombings that are going on these days have nothing to do with these bombings.
verte76 is offline  
Old 02-05-2006, 03:25 PM   #14
ONE
love, blood, life
 
indra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 12,689
Local Time: 08:12 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by verte76
(churches are still pretty damn segregated around here)
Churches are pretty damned segregated all over. I read a report a few years ago (wish I could remember where that was so I could post it -- I'll have to look later) that concluded that churches were one of the, if not the, most segregated places in the US. It wasn't so much the hardcore "you can't come here" as it was people were just more comfortable going to church with their "own."
indra is offline  
Old 02-05-2006, 04:57 PM   #15
Acrobat
 
doubleU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 371
Local Time: 06:12 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by verte76


The church bombings that are going on these days have nothing to do with these bombings.
I didn't say they were. I was just saying that even as early as 3 years ago there were church arsons that were racially motivated. When reports first came out and no one knew all the facts there was speculation that maybe they were racially motivated. All I was saying is I could understand that first speculation given the history of the area.

Of course now we know they weren't.
doubleU is offline  
Old 02-05-2006, 09:25 PM   #16
Blue Crack Addict
 
verte76's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: hoping for changes
Posts: 23,331
Local Time: 12:12 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by doubleU


I didn't say they were. I was just saying that even as early as 3 years ago there were church arsons that were racially motivated. When reports first came out and no one knew all the facts there was speculation that maybe they were racially motivated. All I was saying is I could understand that first speculation given the history of the area.

Of course now we know they weren't.
OK. Unfortunately racially motivated bombings and burnings are always going to be with us.
verte76 is offline  
Old 02-07-2006, 01:41 PM   #17
Blue Crack Addict
 
nbcrusader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 22,071
Local Time: 04:12 AM
Fires burn 4 more Alabama churches

Quote:
BOLIGEE, Alabama (AP) -- Fires damaged four more rural Baptist churches overnight following rash of suspected arsons that burned five others south of Birmingham last week, a state official said Tuesday.

The four new fires were near the Mississippi line, about 10 to 20 miles from each other. All were in sparsely populated areas off rural roads, similar to the five that burned early Friday south of Birmingham.

Ragan Ingram, a spokesman for the state insurance agency that oversees fire investigations, said it was too soon to say if there was any link between the sets of blazes.
nbcrusader is offline  
Old 02-07-2006, 01:44 PM   #18
Forum Moderator
 
yolland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,471
Local Time: 01:12 PM
^ I saw a story about that which made some cryptic passing reference to the possibility of "the crystal meth trade" being involved--anyone know what that might mean?
yolland is offline  
Old 02-08-2006, 01:01 PM   #19
Blue Crack Addict
 
nbcrusader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 22,071
Local Time: 04:12 AM
Church blazes 'No. 1 priority' for federal agency

Quote:
BOLIGEE, Alabama (CNN) -- The spate of church fires in rural Alabama is motivated by hate, a state official said Wednesday, but it's not clear whether arsonists are choosing their targets on the basis of race or religion.
Race or religion. Does it matter when it comes to a hate crime? It seems that the burning of a church is just another arson event, unless their is another motive involved.
nbcrusader is offline  
Old 02-08-2006, 03:32 PM   #20
Acrobat
 
doubleU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 371
Local Time: 06:12 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by nbcrusader


Race or religion. Does it matter when it comes to a hate crime? It seems that the burning of a church is just another arson event, unless their is another motive involved.
Quote:
BOLIGEE, Alabama (CNN) -- The spate of church fires in rural Alabama is motivated by hate, a state official said Wednesday, but it's not clear whether arsonists are choosing their targets on the basis of race or religion.
Um, the quote you stated, says the church fires were motivated by hate.

I think the destinction between race or religion will aid them in finding who, and possibly help them determine future targets.
__________________

doubleU is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com
×