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The gay tent would be much cleaner... do you think it would have a discoball?
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maybe this is generational, but i can't imagine being out in 8th grade. |
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![]() And how exactly are people going to be more accepting of something if they never have to interact with it? Seriously?? ![]() |
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#144 |
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You´re right. Screw segregation. Let´s have co-ed bathrooms. Just one bathroom for both males and females.
I love how for the sake of an argument people here will magically become oblivious to logical human behavior like separating bathrooms to ensure the privacy of opposite sexual genders. |
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#145 |
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Are you serious? Who suggested co-ed bathrooms?
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#148 | |
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You have two unshakable assumptions here which are making you "magically oblivious:" 1) Because more men are rapists, men in general tend to want more sex and have less control of themselves. 2) Men are justifiably weirded out by gays. Both assumptions are ridiculous. |
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#149 |
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There´s really no point in arguing with people who won´t concede the fact that some people want their privacy. I´d rather not shower in front of someone who is attracted to my gender. And so would many other people. It´s that simple. But in interference you´re a bigot for even suggesting that you want your privacy.
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All I'm saying is that they shouldn't be banned from something because of your insecurities. If you are really that paranoid that they can't control themselves, then YOU should be the one who finds somewhere else to bathe, or YOU should be the one to find a different scout group. It shouldn't be their fault that you're paranoid.
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If I were to selfishly answer as you have I would say "I´m the normal one because I´m straight. If you want to change things up and add a new sexual orientation then YOU should move out. It´s not my fault that you´re gay." That line of thinking gets you nowhere. Even if you do manage to convince ME there´s still a vast majority of people out there who do feel uncomfortable with their privacy. |
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And as an aside, go back 50 or 60 years: "I'm the normal one because I'm white. If you want to change things up and sit at the front, then get your own buses. It's not my fault you're black." But you're right, that line of thinking gets you nowhere. And yet you keep pushing for separation because you shouldn't be uncomfortable. So how exactly would this separation work? How would you separate homosexuals* from heterosexuals? *Without violating their rights |
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Besides (and you continue to ignore this), how is your privacy in danger if you can't visually tell who is gay anyway? Maybe everyone you've ever showered next to was gay. Maybe they weren't. Unless you knew them personally (and even then maybe not), you don't know. (which brings me back to how exactly you'd enact this separation...) |
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#156 |
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How about this? I´m currently reading "Capote", the biography (great book so far btw) and it tells of how the bigger, stronger boys would "use" (it was more along the lines of "molest") Capote in the night because he was the "lighter" one of the goup. Don´t tell me these things don´t happen in the army, in prisons, all over the place. So as you see, sometimes, you DO know who is gay and sometimes they are taken advantage of in these conditions. Even then, when we all know that there is a possibility of them becoming targets, you see no reason at all for separation?
How would I separate them? I don´t know. But I do think that keeping such close quarters between "opposite" sexual orientations might just be asking for trouble. |
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Privacy is one thing. Segregation and discrimination is another. I don't understand how the fact that a homosexual is nearby in the bathroom is a violation of your privacy. It is segregation to ban them from the bathroom. It's a men's room, not a straight men's room. |
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I do not see the actions of bigots, abusers and bullies as justification for separating and/or minimizing one group from the rest of society.
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So, what are we suppossed to do? Just wait for people to "control themselves", expect people to "tolerate" because "that´s the way it should be"? You´re being idealistic. |
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Who's not controlling themselves? Why do you assume that every homosexual is going to be checking you out? Why do you think they will be making sexual moves towards you in the bathroom?
__________________Why would people need to tolerate? Maybe they could just go about their business and not worry about it! They certainly have been for the longest time. |
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