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Babyface
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Out of all the places, for Atalnta to be the hub of this is a little ironic, notoriously an enormously unapproving city.
And this gets to the heart of the hypocrisy ~ you pay taxes just as any other American and as such it is your deist given secular right to not be excluded from government funded organisations.Irvine511 said:unfortunately, this is not true.
it is perfectly legal to fire someone in many states for being gay, whether one is working for a private company or for the government at any level.
the Boy Scouts receive tons of federal handouts, yet they discriminate against both gays and atheists.
as do some universities:
Irvine511 said:while i don't think this is exactly the issue i was getting at here, i do think it's important to note that colleges have always had unique islands of limited free speech.
since many students board at college, there does seem to be limits on what can be said in, say, a dorm or at a campus party because this is where the student lives, and there is a perceived right not to be harassed in someone's living space. i don't think this extends to the classroom, nor do i think it should, but having been something of an RA for a group of first-year students when i was a junior, we made it very clear that the dorm was a home, and that everyone had a right to feel comfortable and safe.
yes, we were saying that we would not tolerate intolerance, and i saw nothing wrong what that.
Irvine511 said:now this is getting at what i hoped to discuss.
when does someone's expression of a certain right (in this case, religious expression) become someone else's harassment?
i think we can agree that in a public space, there is little that can, or should be done.
but in settings like a workplace and a university, where do we draw the line between anti-harassment ethics and the freedome to express one's religious beliefs?
is intolerance of intolerance simply another form of intolerance? or is that being too relativist and meta about it? is this just a common sense thing?